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  Letters from Society Re: JW Blood Review.org?

  by Pathofthorns in

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  2. beliefs

  just wondering if anyone has submitted the jw-bloodreview.org research paper to the society for a response has actually recieved one and if so, what it was.. does anyone know if the society has attempted to refute the information contained?.

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  chasson

  I have written to the society a letter similar than the article
  of jwbloodreview, i haven't receveid an answer

  See:(in french)

  http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/lettres.htm

  Bye

  Charles
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  Prohibition, a Satanic plot

  by Norm in

  1. jw
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  da judge j. f. rutherford had some rather bizarre ideas regarding many things, it is however quite rare to come across anything quite so strange as his opinion of the prohibition in the us in the twenties.

  rutherford loved his booze and didnt take kindly to the prohibition.

  in an article with the title prohibition published in the november 1, 1924 issue of the watchtower he really let it rip and showed his power of reason in full flight.

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  chasson

  Hi,

  To add something more, Russell has viewed the prohibition as a good
  thing in his books "The Armaguedon Battle". Another thing where
  Russell and Rutherford were totally agree ;-)

  Bye

  Charles
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  Info about the tax case in France

  by Mr Magoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a quick discussion with my jw wife yesterday about the tax case in france.... she argued that the taxes "suddenly were to be paid back dated several years").

  i argued that it was because that the wtbts had problems maintaining there religion status.... could anyone inform me (or show me where i can find some mere info) explaining the exact problem (for the org).. i read somewhere (in an old h20 post from ginny - found on watchtowernews) that the taxes should have been paid from the beginning but weren't and therefore penalties and interests also were to be paid.. i also understand that there may be similar cases coming up in other european cuntries.. kind regards.

  mr. magoo

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  chasson

  In fact, the Wt is really persecuted in France in this tax's story.

  In fact, there were different problem where the Wt has made faults
  and have must payed: The Wt has "forgotten" to paid the Social
  Security for his employeers, has "forgotten" to declare the money
  the Wt have winned, and have not declare the gifts of his followers.

  For the last one, the Wt has the right not to declare the gifts,
  and that's why the Wt is really persecuted for this last thing.
  But for the 2 first thing, the Wt has deliberated made some
  illegal things.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Apostates' Night Out

  by Gopher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey all,.

  i just got home from the very first minnesota evil apostates night (mean).

  we wonder if similar apostate nights out have been held elsewhere.. we daringly held this mini-convention (8 in attendance) at a smoky bar somewhere in minneapolis.

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  chasson

  Hi Gopher,

  We have made this kind of meeting in France too. The apostate's site
  in France is a mailing-list ( http://www.chez.com/tjliberte ), and
  you have described perfectly how we have lived during this meeting.

  For us, it is important to see us in "real life", just to see how
  "an apostate" is really an human being. We have have all of us still
  in mind the cliche of the Jw's view of an apostate, a anguish and
  greedy man, and when we were all, we have seen simple man and women,
  with their problems and story.

  This kind of informal meeting is very helpfully: There is a life
  after the Watchtower.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Where some JW find their clothes ?

  by chasson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in all the congregation that i've passed my jw's life, i've found.

  a lot of jw wearing some particular clothes like the picture.

  of "you can live forever...".

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  chasson

  Hi,

  In all the congregation that i've passed my Jw's life, i've found
  a lot of JW wearing some particular clothes like the picture
  of "You can live forever...". The young people of one of this
  congregation, called them, the Seventies JW.

  Is someone know where they buyed this particular clothes ?

  Bye

  Charles
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  C.J. Woodworth - New historical information

  by Lee Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following information was obtained from skip higgins who is a distant.

  relative of c.j.

  woodworth.

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  chasson

  >And let's don't forget, that you have no hope at all.

  And what i expect to answer ?

  Oh fred, i'm so scared, pray Jehovah for me ?

  Have you think just one time that there could be a difference between
  the Watchtower and God ?

  Call me Charles, Fred, we are brother.

  Bye

  Charles
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  C.J. Woodworth - New historical information

  by Lee Elder in

  1. jw
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  the following information was obtained from skip higgins who is a distant.

  relative of c.j.

  woodworth.

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  chasson

  Just a modification in your text, Fred:

  "Don't forget that he remain faithful to *the borg* down to his death. Now his is with him. Can you say that for yourself?"

  Except this little error, very good point

  Bye

  Charles
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  what brought you out?

  by uncle_onion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was intersted in what brought "you" out.. with me it was the 607 bce thing.

  i always followed the org and would have died for it but when i saw the fallacy of the 607 date that blew it for me.

  i am now on a quest to try and find something to feel comfortable with.

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  chasson

  For me the blood question:

  If you want to see the letters that i send to the french's Bethel

  See http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/lettres.htm

  Bye

  Charles
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  Pétition électronique pour Rémi

  by chasson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  remi 21 ans, atteint de leucemie froudoyante a besoin d'une transfusion pour.

  etre traite par chimiotherapie.

  si il acceptait ce traitement il aurait 70 a.

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  chasson

  Hi all,

  Thanks for the site of translation. I think that i will use it a lot
  of time. ;-)

  The ADFI is a french's association as AFF.

  In french:

  Association de Défense de la Famille et de l'individu.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Pétition électronique pour Rémi

  by chasson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  remi 21 ans, atteint de leucemie froudoyante a besoin d'une transfusion pour.

  etre traite par chimiotherapie.

  si il acceptait ce traitement il aurait 70 a.

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  chasson

  Rémi 21 ans, atteint de leucémie froudoyante a besoin d'une transfusion pour
  être traîté par chimiothérapie. Si il acceptait ce traitement il aurait 70 à
  75 % de chance de survivre en refusant la transfusion, à moins d'un miracle,
  il n'a pratiquement aucune chance.

  Rémi est Témoin de Jéhovah, et l'enseignement de sa religion, interdit les
  transfusions. Les Témoins de Jéhovah posent comme condition pour être reconnu
  comme Témoin de Jéhovah de refuser toutes transfusions sous peine d'exclusion.
  Ils diabolisent leurs opposants et déconseillent formellement à leurs adeptes
  de lire les écrits de ces opposants qu'ils prétendent inspirés par le diable.

  Si Rémi avait eu accès à l'information sans aucune pression de la part de son
  mouvement, il aurait pu découvrir que le refus de transfusions de sang n'est
  pas biblique:

  http://www.jwbloodreview.org/FrenchJWbloodreview.html
  http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/lettres.htm

  Malheureusement, la diabolisation de l'extérieur et particulièrement des
  "apostats" n'a pas permis à Rémi de faire un choix en toute connaissance de
  cause. D'autre part l'insistance de son mouvement sur les techniques non
  transfusionnelles qui sont efficaces dans certains cas, et l'absence
  d'information de ce même mouvement des cas ou la transfusion est nécessaire
  aggrave la chose.

  Son père inquiet , voulant seulement la survie de son fils, a contacté
  l'ADFI et se retrouve impuissant puisque son fils est majeur. Cette pétition
  a pour but d'informer le premier ministre des conséquences que l'enseignement
  des Témoins de Jéhovah produit, ainsi que pour exiger que les instances
  dirigeantes du mouvement des Témoins de Jéhovah informent leurs adeptes que
  dans certaines circonstances les transfusions de sang sont nécessaires pour la
  survie.

  Vous pouvez agir en signant la pétition electronique: [email protected]
  Indiquez votre nom, prénom et adresse, et écrivez un court texte de soutien au
  Père de Rémi votre mail sera ensuite envoyer à la Mission Interministerielle de
  Lutte contre les Sectes.

  Merci d'avance.

  Bye

  Charles