I agree, Dansk. Thankfully this couple wasn't hurt, it could have turned out a lot worse for them.
Karen
couple bound in home-invasion robbery
posted: 9:56 am edt august 21, 2006 updated: 8:54 pm edt august 21, 2006
indianapolis -- police said an older couple were bound and robbed in their home on saturday.
I agree, Dansk. Thankfully this couple wasn't hurt, it could have turned out a lot worse for them.
Karen
well i setup an account at reexaminer.org eager to make a contribution but find that uploading was disabled (for now anyway).. so here's this year's supposedly hard-hitting expose on "false religion" aka kingdumb news 37. i hope these links work for all of you.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5070/kn37p1wf7.jpg.
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SSDD (Same Sh*t, Different Day).
i know we've heard a lot of horror stories about jcs and getting disfellowshipped.........................but what is your experiences of continuing going to the meetings to be reinstated.............what did it really feel like?.
did you mind being ignored or did you understand it and take it on the chin?.................................what were your familys treatment of you during the period of having to sit on the back row????.
when i saw ppl comming in late and leaving early .....................i just knew it was wrong, wrong , wrong to treat ppl that way.. in fact i got told off for smiling at a sister who i knew genuinly wanted to come back,( the pos wife told me ) i did it out of human feelings and was then blasted.. after she got reinstated, i was the first person she came upto and introduced herself.
There was one guy who was out over 10 years and was coming back. He would sit near the front, three seats in. This was so his brother and SIL would sit next to him, which they did. Who else would sit next to him?
When he did get reinstated, we had a real hard-line elder, and when he was about to announce the reinstatement, he would always tell the cong that they couldn't applaud. WHY?!? Shouldn't we have been happy someone returned to the borg? I don't understand how making someone feel unwelcome would push them to return.
Karen
sometimes i think of all the pain i caused my parents when i left their home to pursue my bible studies.
it happend right around the holidays and my father's birthday, and seemed to be such a slap in the face to him.
he almost didn't come to my wedding, to walk me down the aisle, since i would not attend family functions around holidays and birthdays (he did walk me down the aisle; after i made some appearances but made it clear i was not celebrating).. now that i am out, i am so glad i have been able to repair my relationships with my parents and siblings.
((((anewme)))
That is so very heart-wrenching! I am so sorry for your loss.
My family never turned their back on me, and were so very supportive when I was leaving. My closest sister let me live with her after I left my JW hubby, and she and her family literally just moved into their new house. That is love. No matter what the borg wrote about worldly families, I just couldn't totally leave mine, and I am so glad for that.
Karen
a while back, this "documentary" was being discussed here on jwd, so i took a look at the site of the director, and asked to be e-mailed on updates.
i wanted to see the show since many people here had strong opinions of it.
i haven't been able to view it in my area, so now it seems they are promoting a dvd version.
A while back, this "documentary" was being discussed here on JWD, so I took a look at the site of the director, and asked to be e-mailed on updates. I wanted to see the show since many people here had strong opinions of it. I haven't been able to view it in my area, so now it seems they are promoting a DVD version. Here is the e-mail:
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I thought the "reviews" provided by those who went to screenings were so biased since many are witnesses. I understand that you are not going to have bad reviews when you are selling something, but I wondered if anyone here has seen it, are have some other feedback.
Karen
sometimes i think of all the pain i caused my parents when i left their home to pursue my bible studies.
it happend right around the holidays and my father's birthday, and seemed to be such a slap in the face to him.
he almost didn't come to my wedding, to walk me down the aisle, since i would not attend family functions around holidays and birthdays (he did walk me down the aisle; after i made some appearances but made it clear i was not celebrating).. now that i am out, i am so glad i have been able to repair my relationships with my parents and siblings.
(((Target)))
I'm so sorry! It must be really painful for you. I think of that constantly now that my father's health is deteriorating "What if I was still a JW, and something happened to him?" I am so sorry for your loss in so many ways.
sometimes i think of all the pain i caused my parents when i left their home to pursue my bible studies.
it happend right around the holidays and my father's birthday, and seemed to be such a slap in the face to him.
he almost didn't come to my wedding, to walk me down the aisle, since i would not attend family functions around holidays and birthdays (he did walk me down the aisle; after i made some appearances but made it clear i was not celebrating).. now that i am out, i am so glad i have been able to repair my relationships with my parents and siblings.
i had many experiences like that too, where I would find myself in a jam, and my "worldly" family would be at my assistance in a heartbeat.
I'm glad you are back with your family.
karen
jonbenet's body was found in the basement of the ramsey home in boulder, colorado, early on the morning of december 26. karr told reporters in bangkok that he was with jonbenet in the basement when she died.
but lara karr's attorney, michael rains, said his client "sincerely believes there was no christmas ... anytime between 1989 and 2000 when they were married ... when her husband was not with her and her family at christmastime.
ok, speculation alert... you all know where i am going with this.
There is much speculation on the internet that this guy confessed to murdering JonBenet in order to be extradicted to the US. He has made several trips to Bangkok before, and the hunch is that he got caught paying for sex with minors in Thailand. If that is the case, he would much rather serve any jail time in the US (possibly for a crime he did not commit) than to rot in a Thai prison for the rest of his life.
I am not saying the above is true, but that is the musings out there.
Karen
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i love carling 'extra cold' lager.. .
i am going to the pub tonight - whoo!
I usually drink Pinot Grigio. I recently tried an Apple Martini - it tastes just like a sour apple Jolly Rancher!
Also like Dirty Martini and in the hot summer, Margaritas!
karen
sometimes i think of all the pain i caused my parents when i left their home to pursue my bible studies.
it happend right around the holidays and my father's birthday, and seemed to be such a slap in the face to him.
he almost didn't come to my wedding, to walk me down the aisle, since i would not attend family functions around holidays and birthdays (he did walk me down the aisle; after i made some appearances but made it clear i was not celebrating).. now that i am out, i am so glad i have been able to repair my relationships with my parents and siblings.
I was. Sometimes I think of all the pain I caused my parents when I left their home to pursue my bible studies. It happend right around the holidays and my father's birthday, and seemed to be such a slap in the face to him. He almost didn't come to my wedding, to walk me down the aisle, since I would not attend family functions around holidays and birthdays (he did walk me down the aisle; after I made some appearances but made it clear I was not celebrating).
Now that I am out, I am so glad I have been able to repair my relationships with my parents and siblings. One Christmas, we were all over my folks house (about 30 kids and grandkids), and my dad whispered to me "This is what it's all about - family being together". It really made me appreciate being there to share that for him.
Anyone else in a similar situation?
Karen