I think they water down Paul's words because they know the sisters would never stand for that crap. In Paul's alleged writings he seems to have just wanted them shut. Period. Such rules are not in the writings accredited to Jesus. That of course doesn't mean he wouldn't have endorsed it or maybe said it at some point. But it's amazing how WT can build a whole explanation that really rests on very thin ice.
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What does the WT say about 1 Cor 14:34?
by asilentone ini would like to see the wt article about it.
thanks!.
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Aug. 15th WT- "Jehovah Only Loves Those Who Obey the Governing Body "
by flipper inonce again our lurking jw friend sent us this latest mind control drivel from the " witness only " watchtower.
remember - this is the information our jw relatives will study in their witness meetings at their watchtower study.
this is what they are currently being indoctrinated with.
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All I can say is more Kool-Aid for the dubs to swallow.
Isaac
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I thank my God Jehovah for keeping me healthy - Serena Williams
by Earnest ina woman with the courage of her convictions, and 2009 wimbledon champion..
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Yes but is she really doing what the FDS says Jehovah wants her to do?????
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GB says they are NOT responsible for people acting on their counsel
by LUKEWARM in.. *** w98 3/15 p. 22 par.
15 living up to christian dedication in freedom ***.
15if a witness makes decisions on the basis of bible counsel offered by the governing body, he does so of his own volition because his own study of the bible has convinced him that this is the proper course.
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Those irresponsible morons!
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40 Years (a Generation) Past 1874, That's All it Was!
by OnTheWayOut inhere's the real simple version of the complicated doctrine of when jesus supposedly returned and the last days arrived/ended/started.
william miller said that jesus' return would be in 1844.
(see the great disappointment at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/great_disappointment ) people who believed what he said were known as "millerites.
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Yup, to the point where the average dub believes old Chuck actually predicted the war. Which of course he didn't.
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40 Years (a Generation) Past 1874, That's All it Was!
by OnTheWayOut inhere's the real simple version of the complicated doctrine of when jesus supposedly returned and the last days arrived/ended/started.
william miller said that jesus' return would be in 1844.
(see the great disappointment at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/great_disappointment ) people who believed what he said were known as "millerites.
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truthsetsonefree
OTWO, you hit the nail on the head. I saved this as it's a nice simple way of explaining this stuff to my daughter.
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truthsetsonefree
I always had questions over the consistency in translating these Greek words, the use of context being a factor. Fact is this stuff is all questionable to me having come down through millenia and numerous copying editions. What is interesting is that however you make the translation, as you say the writer makes it clear that he views Jesus to be extrememly important. "Sustaining all things by the word of his power" almost makes him God. Yet WT never focuses on that. They seem to be caught up in refuting their critics who would contend that Jesus should be worshiped.
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firpo carr, phd, mj friend, says mj want kids to be jw's
by orbison11 inomg.
just watching nancy grace on tv, and firpo carr is claiming michael told him that he wanted the kids to be raised like he was, as a jw, with the bible in their life.
orb.
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truthsetsonefree
In some ways there is a logic to that. Many df'd dubs who have been mistreated and shunned still believe it's the truth. They often want their kids in. Who knows? Maybe MJ did too. Carr may be telling the truth. Or he may be telling an old story like Outlaw says. But if it were true, it wouldn't surprise me.
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A former Bethelites SAD testimony at the convention
by AuntBee ini was just typing some of the sessions out for someone (long story), but i heard the tesitmony again, of one of the brothers, who had served at bethel for 12 years.
the thing that was surprising, was that it was not a joyous testimony.
you can actually hear his sadness, and his voice breaking a few times, when he recounts coming back to "the system" (real world) from bethel, and being completely unprepared and untrained for a job, or to earn a living.
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The sad thing is they will view themselves and be viewed as martyrs. It will all be chalked up to the "undeniable fact" that we are living in the last days and "Jehovah's servants" must EXPECT trials and tribulations.
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BTW-Here is that last paragraph again with the source reference. I accidentally cut that out in the last post. Sorry it's kind of hard to read. I can't make heads or tails of why the formatting changes or how to fix it. (If anyone has mastered cutting and pasting into the Reply box please let me know hoe you do it.) PM me and maybe I can send you a cleaner version via email.
it-2p.524Obeisance
ObeisancetotheglorifiedJesusChrist. On the other hand, Christ Jesus has been exalted by his Father to a position second only to God, so that “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” (Php 2:9-11; compare Da 7:13, 14, 27.) Hebrews 1:6 also shows that even the angels render obeisance to the resurrected Jesus Christ. Many translations of this text here render pro·sky·ne′o as “worship,” while some render it by such expressions as “bow before” (AT;Yg) and ‘pay homage’ (NE). No matter what English term is used, the original Greek remains the same and the understanding of what it is that the angels render to Christ must accord with the rest of the Scriptures. Jesus himself emphatically stated to Satan that “it is Jehovah your God you must worship [form of pro·sky·ne′o], and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.” (Mt 4:8-10; Lu 4:7, 8) Similarly, the angel(s) told John to “worship God” (Re 19:10; 22:9), and this injunction came after Jesus’ resurrection and exaltation, showing that matters had not changed in this regard. True, Psalm 97, which the apostle evidently quotes at Hebrews 1:6, refers to Jehovah God as the object of the ‘bowing down,’ and still this text was applied to Christ Jesus. (Ps 97:1, 7) However, the apostle previously had shown that the resurrected Christ is “the reflection of [God’s] glory and the exact representation of his very being.” (Heb 1:1-3) Hence, if what we understand as “worship” is apparently directed to the Son by angels, it is in reality being directed through him to Jehovah God, the Sovereign Ruler, “the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” (Re 14:7; 4:10, 11; 7:11, 12; 11:16, 17; compare 1Ch 29:20; Re 5:13, 14; 21:22.) On the other hand, the renderings “bow before” and ‘pay homage’ (instead of “worship”) are in no way out of harmony with the original language, either the Hebrew of Psalm 97:7 or the Greek of Hebrews 1:6, for such translations convey the basic sense of both hish·ta·chawah′ and pro·sky·ne′o.