Welcome Nancy, look forward to seeing you around here.
Isaac
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New Here
by confusedteenager inhey,.
i've been lurking on this website for a few years now and finally made an account.
i have serious doubts about the organization in general and still have not made up my mind about what to believe.
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New Light - FDS not appointed over Jesus' belonging just yet
by leaving_quietly infrom http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/annual-meeting-report-2012/.
when does jesus appoint the slave over all his belongings?.
in those verses, jesus is referring to his coming as judge during the great tribulation.matthew 24:30; 25:31, 32.. jesus appointment of the slave over his belongings, then, must also be a future event.
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truthsetsonefree
This is actually BIG! What pray tell is the FDS role now?
Isaac
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Any Elders comments on latest idea about Sisters
by truthlover injust finished our 2 day and one of the talks by the do indicated that single sisters in the congregation are to be subservient to all male brothers in the hall..as well a widow too is of the same "status".
is this a new thought or just now an open secret?.
personally, i dont think that is good - after all there are many elders who although, supposedly appointed by hs, can be personally involved with porn behind closed doors or nasty with his wife and family.. i personally know of two like that .... why should i listen to a "stranger" about my life?
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truthsetsonefree
Technically this has always been true, but there are a gazillion ways to work around it. But yes Billy the 8 year old would be in charge. Though the sister would likely just wear a head covering and do what she had to do. Amazing because an 8 year old is not a man.
Isaac
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Is "full-time service" a cult within a cult?
by brokethechain inaccording to the bite model, mind control groups keep their members busy, tell them they are special, have special lingo, etc.. doesn't that make "full-time ministers" into a deeper level of mind control?
it's a "special privilege" to be among those "ranks", there are extra meetings "anual pioneer meeting", "pioneer school", and a whole other level of guilt/indocrination/control for keeping pioneers/bethelites busy.
as "examples", they shouldn't socialize too much, they shouldn't miss field service groups, they should start their time early, they should study all the publications, etc.
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truthsetsonefree
Absolutely, particularly "special fulltime service" like Bethel and missionary service. I've always felt the cult watchers who sometimes feel that Watchtower is an HCG should look at this arm of Watchtower to see the real cultism.
Isaac
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truthsetsonefree
They always have. Even Jehovah has no place in the bedroom!
Isaac
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Has Anyone Seen "Prometheus"?
by Low-Key Lysmith ini loved it!
but then, it went right along with my own personal beliefs concerning mankind's origins, so i'm a little biased.. wondering what a religious person's thoughts would be?.
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truthsetsonefree
I saw it. Like you Terry I need to do some reading on it before I see it again. I did feel it presented some interesting notions on the possibilities of our origins.
Isaac
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Casting Call and stories for Documentary
by truthsetsonefree ini haven't been able to post much over the past few years.
living life outside the dubs has been exhilarating and rewarding.
but i have continued to work on exposing the wt for what it is.
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truthsetsonefree
Greetings everyone! I haven't been able to post much over the past few years. Living life outside the dubs has been exhilarating and rewarding. But I have continued to work on exposing the WT for what it is. Recently I did an extended interview for a journalist in the NYC area who works for a Russian TV station. He is doing a documentary on WT. He is very serious and has interviewed some of our best known ex-JW colleagues, even traveling to do so. He is looking for two things now:
1. Recent stories involving sexual abuse and WT that are concrete and not just hearsay.
2. Individuals comfortable with being on camera for reenactments of field service and possibly other JW activities. This is being filmed mostly in NYC so those of us in the NYC Metro area are most likely to be used.
For further info contact me at [email protected]. This seems like a good opportunity and I hope some can do it.
Isaac
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Hospitality after Public Talk - ???
by RubaDub ini see a lot of mentions about hospitality after the public talk and honestly, i guess it is a practice that was not in the ny/ct area i grew up in or here in south florida today.. i grew up with an elder father and grandfather who gave public talks and were generally well-liked.
as a child, i never recall being invited to someone's house after the meeting.
granted, it was rare to travel more than an hour but regardless, it was typical to get in the car and head home after the "amens.
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truthsetsonefree
In the last few years before I left in 2007 we had hospitality at our NYC congregation. Bethelites from the MidWest had started this in our Hall. It was divided up among book study groups. Needless to say with busy schedules and folks not having much money, small lunches at local spots paid for by the few in the congo who could afford it was the most hospitalty speakers usually ever saw. Most declined it anyway. In some cases a lunch was brought to the Hall before or after the meeting.
Isaac
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Crown Heights Ultra Orthodox Jews Meet To Combat Child Sex Abuse
by truthsetsonefree inhttp://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2012/jun/10/crown-heights-ultra-orthodox-jews-meet-combat-child-sex-abuse/.
this sounds so much like the judaic philosophy of jws.
several moderates here in nyc have been talking about the need to have secular law enforcement involved, not religious rabbis.
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This sounds so much like the Judaic philosophy of JWs. Several moderates here in NYC have been talking about the need to have secular law enforcement involved, not religious rabbis. I'm glad this issue is being brought into the public spotlight.
Isaac Carmignani
"Mordechai Feinstein felt obligated to tell his story. The 19-year-old stands nearly 6-feet-tall with square shoulders and an unmistakable Brooklyn inflection in his voice. When he was 15, he joined a group led by a local rabbi in Crown Heights who mentored at-risk youth.
“I went there for Sabbath meals. He was the spiritual guide and mentor I would go to when I had questions. He helped get me into different religious schools,” explained Feinstein. “So in effect, he was my personal rabbi.”
This rabbi also became his abuser.
Feinstein shared his story with the approximately 100 ultra-Orthodox that attended the public meeting at the Ohel Nosson Shul in Crown Heights on Sunday. He joined a panel of speakers, including Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes, civil rights attorney Norman Siegel, child advocates and rabbis, to talk about how to prevent child sex abuse in the community — and what people could and should do when faced with it.
This isn’t the first meeting of its kind, but it comes at a time where the Brooklyn D.A.’s office faces increased scrutiny for its handling of child sex abuse cases within the ultra-Orthodox community. Hynes has consistently defended his office, pointing to intimidation from within the ultra-Orthodox community itself — on par or beyond that of organized crime cases — that stymies sex abuse prosecutions.
But in Crown Heights, home to the Chabad-Lubavich Hasidic community, an awakening may be emerging. Last year, the local rabbinical court ruled it was forbidden not to report cases of child sex abuse to secular authorities, breaking a long-standing tradition within the community where people sought the counsel of their rabbi before engaging with law enforcement.
“If I could get religious courts around this county adopting that policy, we’d be a much longer way towards solving this problem,” Hynes said, referring to the large ultra-Orthodox communities in Williamsburg and Borough Park.
Last month, Hynes set up a task force to address intimidation in the ultra-Orthodox community. The second meeting of that task force is Monday.
While prosecution is an important element of cracking down on child sex abuse, Rabbi Yosef Blau of Yeshiva University said the community itself needs to understand the severity of the problem.
“Does the community understand that victims are victimized again and again when they get no support from the community, when they are seen as the troublemakers, when people are afraid to be whistle-blowers,” Blau said. “The mentality of the community has to change.”
In some ways Feinstein was lucky. His case was successfully prosecuted by the Brooklyn D.A.’s office, and with the help of civil rights lawyer, Norman Siegel, he had a say in how his perpetrator was punished. But Feinstein is no longer part of the Crown Heights community. He now lives in Miami, Florida.
“It’s been painful, very painful at times,” Feinstein told the audience. “If you care about the community, do something positive for the children.”"
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Merry Christmas!
by botchtowersociety injust stopped by my desk for a sec to hope you all are having a good one.
my house is packed and a zoo.
maybe i am finally having a good christmas after leaving the tower.
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truthsetsonefree
Merry Christmas everyone. This is my fifth Christmas out. Now it's almost totally natural to enjoy the holiday. I must confess to feeling a little out of place still. But having a new family that were never JWs but understand them really helps. Anyway I hope everyone here can find some comfort today.
Isaac Carmignani