Posts by ThomasCovenant

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What's in the Box?

by ThomasCovenant in

saw this years ago.

hope some of you find it funny too.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fhp-td7lzw8&feature=related.

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ThomasCovenant

Saw this years ago. Hope some of you find it funny too.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fHP-Td7LZw8&feature=related

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Growing up a Jehovah's Witness

by jwfacts in

growing up a jw makes a person unique, long after you leave.

even though i strongly disagree with much of what i was taught, i still am tainted by my upbringing in that i think a thought and then correct myself with what i now should think (or visa versa, think something and then remember what i once would have thought).. even now that i am far removed from watchtower thinking, i still feel somewhat of an alien from those around me.

though i am loved at work, i feel they laugh at me more than they laugh with me.. for some time now, i have been meaning to chronograph the concepts that a witness child is indocrinated with to show just how damaging an upbringing it is.

ThomasCovenant

I think it sums up my growing up as a witness from the age of 11 very, very well.

Thank you for your time and effort.

Thomas Covenant

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Is Having Children a Purely Selfish Act?

by ThomasCovenant in

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many years ago a childless witness couple said to me that they didn't want any children.. we discussed some of the pros and cons of having them and then they said that they could only think of selfish reasons for having them.. i found it hard to argue against that.

not selfish in a nasty way of course but for the benefit of the parents nonetheless.. they now have two children.. what are the unselfish reasons for wanting children?.

thomas covenant.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

Many years ago a childless Witness couple said to me that they didn't want any children.

We discussed some of the pros and cons of having them and then they said that they could only think of selfish reasons for having them.

I found it hard to argue against that. Not selfish in a nasty way of course but for the benefit of the parents nonetheless.

They now have two children.

What are the unselfish reasons for wanting children?

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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Happy Circumcision Day. (Bit late sorry)

by ThomasCovenant in

please accept my apologies for the belated greetings.. january 1st was the 'feast of the circumcision' of baby little j.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/feast_of_the_circumcision.

assuming baby j travelled out of the birth canal on 25th december then on the 1st january his little foreskin would have been removed.. what a feast!

let us party on down.. thomas covenant.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

Please accept my apologies for the belated greetings.

January 1st was the 'Feast of the Circumcision' of baby Little J.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_the_Circumcision

Assuming Baby J travelled out of the birth canal on 25th December then on the 1st January his little foreskin would have been removed.

What a feast! Let us party on down.

Thomas Covenant

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Jesus' Sacrifice. You call that a sacrifice?

by ThomasCovenant in

''son, i want you to go down to earth and eventually get killed.

then i'll bring you back to life in heaven asap''.

how the hell do 'christians' justify calling that a sacrifice?.

ThomasCovenant

Re Oompa

Glad you enjoyed Mr Deity. Try him over at www.crackle.com and just search 'Mr Deity'

I think there are more videos and better quality than at youtube. My brother told me about him a couple a years ago. I don't know how he found him but that's the beauty of the tinternet.

I think Mr Deity, like Farkel on this site, is excellent at showing up the silliness of some religious beliefs. Most people can laugh at it and then stop and think 'Yes but that's what I do think'

As regards my calculations. Well they are obviously not to be taken too literally, brother, as the day = 1000 years is currently an unproven mathematical constant and is very likely to remain so. But yes I did try working it out

Jesus life of about 33 years = 0.033 of 1000 years therefore 0.033 of a day is about 48 minutes.

Jesus in Sheol for 3 days = 0.00000821 of 1000 years therefore 0.00000821 of a day (consisting of 86400 seconds) is about 7/10ths of a second

So perhaps I was giving too much credit in saying 7 whole seconds. Good God, sometimes I blink my eyes for longer than he was dead.

The main point though is as Watson said

'I don't understand how a deity letting himself die, then resurecting himself is an equal or greater sacrifice than a man losing his life with no chance of forgiveness or resurection.'

This doesn't look to be a point that lovers of human sacrifice seem willing to address.

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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Jesus' Sacrifice. You call that a sacrifice?

by ThomasCovenant in

''son, i want you to go down to earth and eventually get killed.

then i'll bring you back to life in heaven asap''.

how the hell do 'christians' justify calling that a sacrifice?.

ThomasCovenant

Thanks for replying.

Re MARY'S REPLY

Who can deny that the torture and death of Jesus as reported in the Gospels was an horrific way to go. For any 'normal' man (or woman) to willingly 'sacrifice' himself in this way on behalf of those he loved would truly be outstanding.

However, I cannot seem to accept that that it is the same scenario with a supposed spirit being taking the temporary form of a human male dying a horrible death knowing full well he's going to get brought back to his former life, if not actually a lot better off.

A man willingly giving up his life in total self annihilation for loved ones

does not equate ( in my limited personal experience)

to the 2nd in command of the universe temporarily giving up his stint as a human albeit a very painful and humiliating last couple of days of it.

No offence is meant to those who believe otherwise, I just can't see it myself.

Thanks

Thomas Covenat

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Jesus' Sacrifice. You call that a sacrifice?

by ThomasCovenant in

''son, i want you to go down to earth and eventually get killed.

then i'll bring you back to life in heaven asap''.

how the hell do 'christians' justify calling that a sacrifice?.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

''Son, I want you to go down to earth and eventually get killed. Then I'll bring you back to life in heaven asap''

How the hell do 'christians' justify calling that a sacrifice?

Throughout human history I assume there have been 'real' sacrifices for loved ones.

I got to thinking too that if 1 day is as a 1000 years then Little J was on earth for about the equivalent of 48 minutes of our time (helluva an ordeal)

and was dead for about 7 seconds.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzuxyq3ltls

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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Haven't heard from Gopher for a while

by ThomasCovenant in

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friends

any know if all is ok?.

ThomasCovenant

Any know if all is ok?

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Got a new Blackberry yesterday

by coffee_black in

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friends

my company just got many of us a new blackberry curve.

it will take me ages to understand all it can do... camera, video, email, internet, maps, contacts...sheesh..it goes on forever, not to mention the phone and instant messaging..... i keep pushing the wrong button when someone calls...so i disconnect... or get an email and think it's a phone call and try to answer it... and oh...the tiny tiny keypad!.

i'll catch on eventually.... all i can say is that technology has come a very long way!.

ThomasCovenant

I've had a Blackberry Curve for about 3 months and the Blackberry 8700 for 3 years before that. I love 'em

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Scan of 1984 Watchtower needed

by jwfacts in

does anyone have a scan of the may 15, 1984 watchtower.

i only need from the cover and inside pages to page 7. thanks

ThomasCovenant

What a beaut of an article!

How come I allowed myself to go along with it for so long.

These 7 pages are enough to show anyone the idiocy of the WT.

Surely?

Thomas Covenant