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  Jehovah'$ Witne$$e$ say center would have big impact

  by betterdaze in

  1. social
  2. current

  jehovah's witnesses say center would have big impact.

  a planned 3,000-seat educational center will have a substantial economic impact on orangeburg county over the next five years, jehovah's witnesses officials say.. .

  the center could generate $264 million in revenues over a five-year period, with the added benefit of more than $18.4 million in new sales tax revenues for the local area, church spokesman bill sims said.. .

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  ''The center could generate $264 million in revenues over a five-year period,''

  That's a million dollars a week. How?

  ''Could''
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  JW Mom refuses Surgery for her BABY over Blood Transfusion

  by Rabbit in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://abcnews.go.com/health/video/johovahs-witness-seeks-bloodless-surgery-11681184.

  look at the faux confidence in this jw mom's wt-trained brain.. *sigh*.

  once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away...i was an uber dub and i was married to one, too.

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  Thanks to poster 'dhand' for bring this to my attention. Apologies if this has already been posted.

  http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/jehovahs-witness-convicted/430292.html
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  Is this the kind of God you want to worship?

  by MrFreeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's believe all non-jw's are going to die at armageddon.

  this can't be debated.

  i would say i'm the kind of guy who lives a quiet, unassuming life.

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  ThomasCovenant

  I agree. But not only that,

  What do you think of the billions of people that worship that kind of god?

  It frightens me.
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  ex-jw-uk

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

  i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

  i've already found several by reading older posts..

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  ThomasCovenant

  Newport, South Wales.

  Hello
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  Armageddon Prior to 2000 and Capital Punishment Quotes

  by bigmouth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two quotes i'm trying to locate, from the mags i think, or possibly a book;.

  1) one article (mid '80's ?

  ) stated that it was concievable that this system could continue as far as the year 2000 but all the signs were it would never get this far.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Don't know if this is one, can't access my CDrom so I'm only typing copying a piece I've already written down, hope it helps.

  Watchtower 1st march 1952 pp158-160.

  Questions from Readers

  'Do the courts of the land have the right to inflict capital punishment on those guilty of murder?

  .....................Hence, there does not seem to be any violation of Scriptural principle in the community's putting a murderer to death. It even seems a more Scriptural course than committing the murderer for life, to be thereafter fed and clothed and cared for at the expense of the community,..............''

  I'll try and post full answer again.
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  Where are all the German posters in this forum?

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to 'bigboards' there are more visitors to this site from germany than from the uk, canada and australia combined.

  you'd never think it from the posters.

  don't know how accurate the stats are though.. http://www.big-boards.com/board/323/ .

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  According to 'BigBoards' there are more visitors to this site from Germany than from the UK, Canada and Australia combined. You'd never think it from the posters.

  Don't know how accurate the stats are though.

  http://www.big-boards.com/board/323/
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  Blood Ban and Your Pets

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how irrational the society could be was experienced by the sister-in-law of ex-bethelite william (bill) cetnar when .... at the suggestion of her veterinarian, she had a blood transfusion given to her poodle to prolong its life.

  she couldn't believe bill [cetnar]when he told her that the society would say she had violated god's law.

  at his urging she wrote the society on the matter and the response she received informed her that she had done wrong.

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  If this is still 'current truth' then a JW is not allowed to use live bait when fishing. Or bait that hasn't been properly drained of blood.

  You wouldn't feed a live mouse to a cat but the cat can catch the mouse and eat it?

  Am I going mad?
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  Blood Ban and Your Pets

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how irrational the society could be was experienced by the sister-in-law of ex-bethelite william (bill) cetnar when .... at the suggestion of her veterinarian, she had a blood transfusion given to her poodle to prolong its life.

  she couldn't believe bill [cetnar]when he told her that the society would say she had violated god's law.

  at his urging she wrote the society on the matter and the response she received informed her that she had done wrong.

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  Thank you Bangalore for finding that 'Questions from Readers'.

  To paraphrase Chevy Chase/Clark Griswold ''They're all f..ked in the head''.
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  "Look it wasn't a global flood.."

  by Qcmbr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've heard the statement from bible apologists so many times that the global flood story of genesis was not a global flood but was probably a local flood.

  this seems problematic.. this directly disagrees with the bible.

  everywhere the bible internally references a global flood of worldwide scale (i'll throw in matthew 24:39 as a nt example and genesis 6:17 as a ot example.

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  brotherdan said

  ''The case about a global flood is this:

  Jesus believed in it and spoke of it. If I reject the flood, then I reject Jesus. That is why I take an all or nothing approach to the Bible. When you begin to throw out 1 part, you end up having to throw out the whole thing.'' (my bold)

  How about this.

  Imagine in 2000 years time someone reading a speech of Barak Obama's where he allegedly said

  ''Just as in the days of Huckleberry Finn people can be racist.''

  Or,

  ''Just as in the days of Oliver Twist some children end up as pickpockets.''

  That would not be proof enough for me that Huckleberry Finn or Oliver Twist actually existed as real people. It wouldn't be proof enough for me that Barak Obama believed that they were real people.

  I actually used to think very similar to you. I wrote off to the Society asking about the book of Genesis. I wrote that if God had simply left it at Gen 1:1 I would have been happy. He created everything, end of. But no, we have all the nonsense of the first 12 chapters of Genesis to contend with.

  I then followed up with your system of thinking. One out, all out.

  I'm much happier now not having to try and perform mental contortions to try and get things to fit, eg ice cores, tree rings, glaciers, mountains, ancient human artifacts, totally waterproof pyramids etc.
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  Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.

  even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.

  here are the exact words:.

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  Hamsterbait said

  ''Another book (now expunged from the CD) "Life Everlasting in the Freedom of the Sons of God" states that Christs Millennial reign will end in 2975. (in a chronological chart)''

  I've never heard of that one before. Sounds good