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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

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  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''Khater is an immigrant from Sudan who was granted asylum by the UK authorities.

  He has recently been found guilty of attempted murder because he deliberately drove his car at Police and pedestrians. He's been given a custodial sentence.

  Am I racist if I criticise this guy?

  Am I racist if I say Khater should 'go back to where he came from'?''

  Well I'd guess if you were criticising him for being 'of colour' then I'd veer towards a Yes.

  If you were criticising him because of his actions then I'd veer towards a No.

  If you were saying he should 'go back to where he came from' because you have an aversion to people of colour who were born in Africa then I'd veer towards a Yes.

  If you were saying he should 'go back to where he came from' because you think it is simply better to send all criminals back to their country of origin whether it be Ireland, France, Japan etc, with reciprocal arrangements with other countries to return all criminals back to their country of birth as a matter of state policy, then I'd veer towards a No.
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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  If you rail against the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses direction, go where you will be happier.

  If not , then shush.
  
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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''Regarding strive for change, it depends if the change you are looking for is a good change or not. If you want to weaken the country, flout the laws of the land etc... I’m not for that at all. If you want to save babies lives and not destroy them, I’m for that change.''

  Again I get what you're saying.

  But it could be interpreted, or misinterpreted, that what you are saying is as follows;

  If a person is striving to change something that I don't agree with as being a good thing, then they can just leave or shush.

  However, if a person is striving to change something that I do agree with as being a good thing, then they don't have to leave or shush.

  I could probably see myself agreeing with that sentiment. I think it's human nature to a large degree.
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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''I'm offering Option 4.........Strive for change - great.''

  I'm glad we agree on that, thanks.

  As regards 'these' four women , Trump, Obama etc, I wasn't commenting on that. But I take your point.
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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''Pretty simple, if you live or move to a country that you pretty much hate, why stay there? If I am not happy in a situation or a place to live, I’ll do my best to get out of there. I don’t understand why you have difficulty grasping this.''

  I agree with you Minimus to a degree.

  What I'm commenting on is your statement, ''If you rail against the country’s direction, go where you will be happier. If not , then shush.'' I'm just wondering if you think that striving for political change of direction is not something to be pursued.

  If Frenchmen of 1789 had followed the advice that could be implied in your statement then I'm guessing the French Revolution would not have taken place.

  When the American colonials were railing against the direction that the British were leading the early country I suppose they could have just shushed, or left.

  I don't think you mean that. But that is how it could be interpreted.

  Option 1 ......Put up

  Option 2 ......Shut up

  Option 3 ......Leave

  I'm offering Option 4.........Strive for change
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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  'If you choose to go to any country and you simply rail against it all the time, leave.''

  Fair point, if you choose to move/emigrate to a country and then rail against it all the time.

  Is that what you meant by your earlier comment, ''If you rail against the country’s direction, go where you will be happier. If not , then shush.''

  I'm just clarifying if you feel feel the same way about it if you were born in a country (as opposed to moving to it) that you rail against its direction?
  
  
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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  My mistake. I didn't realize you were specifically talking about railing against the USA.

  I took it that your advice was that, if you express disapproval of the country of your birth, for whatever reason, then your options are either leave that country, for example North Vietnam, or stop expressing your disapproval of that country.

  I'm guessing there wouldn't be much change that way.
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  If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!

  if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.

  if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''If you rail against the country’s direction, go where you will be happier. If not , then shush.''

  Yes, I tried that. It didn't go down too well.

  I said ''If you you rail against Guatemalas's direction, go to the the USA where you will be happier. If not, then shush.''

  ''If you you rail against Mexico's direction, go to the the USA where you will be happier. If not, then shush.''

  ''If you you rail against Hong Kong's direction, go to the the USA where you will be happier. If not, then shush.''

  
  
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  ...Were Trump`s comments about Obama Racist?...

  by OUTLAW in

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  more backlash: david letterman considers banning trump for his racist comments.

  by colby hall | 8:16 am, april 29th, 2011 video .

  david letterman and his guest dr. phil discussed donald trumps recent allegations that barack obama was.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Back in the good ol' days here in the UK, it was common to hear people saying to other people who appeared to be of Asian ethnicity,''Paki go home'' ''Fuck off back to Pakistan'' or to people who appeared of African ethnicity, ''Get back to the jungle where you came from''.

  These comments were made without regard to whether the person was actually of Pakistani heritage or not. Bangladeshis and Indians were lumped together with Pakistanis. I'd guess that the person shouting ''Paki go home'' had not bothered to find out whether the recipient of the exhortation had actually never come from that country or whether they had been born in the UK. Skin colour and appearance seemed to be sufficient justification for the comments.

  But to think that the person doing the shouting could have a racist bone in their body is beyond me.

  Ah the good ol' days when you could tell Pakis to go home.
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  My Life In the Watchtower

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  it is choice of name i was never happy with.

  so to re-introduce myself i chose number 6, after the main character in that superb 60's sci fi series "the prisoner".

  six of one, half a dozen of the other i suppose.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Missed it first time around. Thanks for sharing.