Posts by ThomasCovenant

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Link between relationships and health/happiness

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

even though i’m agnostic so will not commit to either intelligent design or chance, i love being part of the congregation for the close personal relationships.. there is such a great atmosphere inside the congregation it really is like a family and you don’t get this anywhere else.. a real friend is someone you can rely on when you are in need.

if things go wrong for you and you are going through a hard time you know real friends will be there for you.

as long as you didn’t bring it on yourself by going against gods law then you have to prove you are repentant first of course.. there is a lot of research now saying that good friends is essential for healthy and happiness.

ThomasCovenant

''There is such a great atmosphere inside the congregation it really is like a family and you don’t get this anywhere else.'' How do you know that? Have you tried 'everywhere' else?

''Is there really anything wrong with me staying inside the congregation when I am agnostic?'' Not if you don't care about being associated with an organization known for covering up child abuse and has a core belief that results in the death of people for refusing blood, no not at all. Crack on.

We all see things differently. Your disdain for the Governing Body for 'pushing' the covid vaccine is similar to my disdain for Physically In's Whatever Out's.

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S Club 7 star died of NATURAL causes.....

by BoogerMan in

“a spokesperson from dorset coroner's office told the bbc that due to the nature of his death there would be no inquest.

no further details were given on cause of death by the coroner.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65633872.

no "further" details were given?

ThomasCovenant

I'm guessing he died as a direct and immediate result of taking the covid vaccine. Or possibly he was bumped off for knowing too much about the fake moon landings. Fancy dying of natural causes. Who the hell does that these days? Pull the other one.

What do they take us for, total idiots?

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First EVER autopsy report on a Covid vaxxed person!

by BoogerMan in

carried out in italy.. i wonder what jw's who are pressured to get jabbed would think of this post mortem examination report.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdjzavxzm98.

autopsy report: https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393x/11/1/142.

ThomasCovenant

Cofty,

Is that correct, that excess deaths are 31% above average in the UK week after week after week? I'm not that good on understanding the statistics shown on the link you gave. But it looks to me that the week in question was

''Expected'' registered deaths based on week 16 of 2019 was 9,484. (Quotation marks are from the link)

Excess deaths (and as a percentage of expected) 2.936 (31%)

But comparing week 15 of 2023 with week 15 of 2019 it was a drop of 8%.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

ThomasCovenant

Sea Breeze: What if someone chooses a purpose that requires them to murder you?

What, like if a person believes that the deity they worship requires them to murder someone?

For example, Abraham believing that his 'god' wanted him to murder his own son?

What you asked is exactly why I have very little respect for any worshipper of any god. Once you start worshipping an almighty Allah or God, if you believe that that deity may require you to rape, or kill, or feed the poor, you have to do it. And you can justify it.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

ThomasCovenant

ExBetheliteNowPIMA formerly Llubrevlis formerly InDoubtBigTime,

But you still don't 'think' there's enough evidence to convince you that man has landed on the moon either do you?

Oh dear.

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New blood card

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

all elders just got letters about this new blood card system .

“language-coordinating congregations will receive separate parcel(s) containing the revised durable power of attorney for health care (dpa-e) for all congregation(s) in their literature group.“.

my questions are - why the revision and what has been revised?.

ThomasCovenant

'' no transfusions..... be given me under any circumstances, even if health-care providers believe that such are necessary to preserve my life.'' ( What the fuck would they know about it?)

And why not ? Because the Governing Body say so, and all my other Physically Ins have to appear to do the same too. Lovely jubbly.

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Is Wokeness a Religion

by JeffT in

jw
friends

this is long so i'll just post a link, i think many here will agree with a lot of what the author has to say.

it certainly resonated with my thinking of the last few years.

https://instapundit.substack.com/p/it-should-be-safe-to-be-unpopular?sd=pf.

ThomasCovenant

''the woke nutters are currently mutilating children''

Is that the hundreds of millions of followers of Islam and Jews, with their centuries old tradition of circumcision? Some people think so.

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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..

ThomasCovenant

ExBethelitenowPIMA / LLubrevlis / InDoubtBigTime,

Do you think that your continued outward appearance of actually being Physically In and Mentally In ( after all, isn't that what continued Physically In is implying), may have an influence on others, particularly on younger impressionable people who have only known the religion of their parents and others they may look up to as being 'In the Truth' , to not have a blood transfusion in a life and death situation?

Or do you think your continued pretending to be a true believer has no influence on others who may look up to you?

I ask as one who was Physically In and Definitely Mentally Out for years. When the blood issue finally hit home directly to my family I believed I was very much part of the problem. I realize others don't feel the same. I don't understand why they don't.

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

ThomasCovenant

Cofty,

Are you wasting your time?

In regards to ExBethelitenowPIMA, previously known as Llubrevlis,previously known as InDoubtBigTime , he of the moon landings conspiracy, then yes of course you are.

But to the those on the forum who aren't still walking whilst dragging their knuckles on the ground, then definitely you are not.

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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..

ThomasCovenant

FedupJW

I'm surprised it took you so long to work out.