Posts by ThomasCovenant

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THE FINAL VERDICT IS DELIVERED!!!

by Hobo Ken in

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this is the final of my series of podcasts in which the 3 circuit overseers decide my fate as a jehovah's witness.. my blog- deathorobedience.blogspot.com.

podcast 12 the final verdict- play the audio.

also available free on itunes (just search on itunes).. .

ThomasCovenant

Thank you once again for recording this process.

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Fancy a 6 day Trans Siberian train journey?

by ThomasCovenant in

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http://www.google.ru/intl/ru/landing/transsib/en.html.

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http://www.google.ru/intl/ru/landing/transsib/en.html

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An announcement from the Watchtower?

by ThomasCovenant in

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to be read by the co-ordinator of the body of elders at the earliest opportunity to the whole congregation, a copy of which is to be posted on the kingdom hall noticeboard and preferably local and national newspapers.. to the worldwide brotherhood of jehovah's witnesses;.

dear brothers and sisters,.

it is with a heavy 'heart of wisdom' that we address you all today.. we have thought long and hard, and some of us even prayerfully, of how to bring out this latest 'new light'.. for many years now we have taught what we thought were delightful words of truth.

ThomasCovenant

To be read by the Co-ordinator of the Body of Elders at the earliest opportunity to the whole congregation, a copy of which is to be posted on the Kingdom Hall noticeboard and preferably local and national newspapers.

To the worldwide brotherhood of Jehovah's Witnesses;

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

It is with a heavy 'heart of wisdom' that we address you all today.

We have thought long and hard, and some of us even prayerfully, of how to bring out this latest 'new light'.

For many years now we have taught what we thought were delightful words of truth. Evidently, however, this has not proved to be the case.

At best, it was wishful thinking. At worst, some of our opposers would say, it was downright deception.

We now realize that what has been thought and taught by us brothers who have had the privilege of serving on the Governing Body, that this organization, The Watchtower Society, was God's organization, is no longer true. Doubtless it never was and never will be.

We are deeply regretful for this latest understanding and ask that you forgive us for letting you down. All we can say is that we too were deceived and let down by our own wishes that this was indeed 'the Truth'.

We have known though for many years that that wish was unfounded.

We then had to make a decision as to what to do with this realization without causing too much irreversible pain and heartache to you our fellow brothers. How were we to close down the Society in as orderly fashion as possible, remembering that God's people are an organized people in all things they do.

We tried coming out with ever more desperately silly and intellectually insulting new light especially with regard to the anointed and the generation. The aim was to cause more of you to eventually wake up so to speak and realize for yourselves that this wasn't 'the Truth' and quietly leave of your own accord. However, it appears that no matter how ludicrous our articles were, many of you had too much to lose by leaving or were just not that bothered or worse still, didn't even notice. Although many of our brothers have 'fallen away' as planned, due to the increasing numbers coming in from less educated, poorer and non-internet countries we have been faced with the problem of increasing as opposed to decreasing numbers.

This situation could have gone on indefinitely. Just look at Islam and the Catholic Church. But it cannot be allowed to go on if we, as your self appointed leaders, are to have a good conscience. We have debated therefore for many months as to what to do. The easiest thing is to let it continue and soften our teachings and do more humanitarian works. In other words end up like most other religions that we have criticized in the past.

But the far more difficult thing to do is to stop and close down. We have had many opposers who have criticized us but do these people have any idea how difficult it is to shut down a multi billion dollar worldwide religion with at least 7 million members desperate for its leadership?

What is to happen to all the Kingdom Hall properties and Bethel complexes and the headquarters? Contrary to what some may think we have never done this for the money.

We therefore propose that each individual Kingdom Hall do as they see fit with the property. We here in New York are preparing to sell all Watchtower property at the earliest opportunity and will forward all proceeds to Red Cross and Red Crescent.

As individuals we will have to make do as best we can with this new light. We know that many Circuit and District Overseers will have difficulty finding employment and so we ask humbly that you their former brothers do what you can to help them.

We know we have never sought help and suggestions before off any of you but if anyone does have a better idea please let us know.

Your loving brothers on the Governing Body

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The Truman Show

by slimboyfat in

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i know this has been discussed before, and it's the inspiration for mickey mouse's avatar.... i watched the truman show last night, and the parallels with life as a jw struck me.

truman thinks his world is real, but it's an illusion, part of an elaborate hoax.

the clues are all around him that things are not quite right: his distant wife; running into his dead father in the street; the strange messages he picks up on his car radio talking about him and watching his movements.

ThomasCovenant

''Each person who fails to express their disbelief in the worldview expounded in the Watchtower helps to create the impression of a flock of people who all buy into the 'reality' of the Witness world.''

I couldn't agree more.

Once when I was being 'counselled' the brother said that I had to be careful not to be haughty thinking I knew better than 7 million other Witlesses. Duh, what about the 7 billion non Witlesses

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On what page of the new Yearbook is the Statistics?

by ThomasCovenant in

i know it's online as an mp3 but what page in the book is it please?.

specifically the memorial partakers.

thanks anyone.

ThomasCovenant

Thanks Possible-San

It appears to be Page 31 in the Japanese version,

but I'm wondering if that's the same in English version?

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SCAN OF THE 2009 WORLDWIDE REPORT OF JWS REQUESTED

by steve2 in

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could someone with access to the jw yearbook provide a scan of the country-by-country figures for 2009?

i've seen the overview page scanned from the yearbook of the worldwide totals, but so far no scan of the figures for each country.

many thanks in advance for the scan!.

ThomasCovenant

Hi Nicolau

I mean what is the page number in the Yearbook that the main stats are on.

If a JW wanted to look it up without going online what page would he turn to in the book?

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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The Generation that saw, the Generation that saw 1914, will not pass away.

by ThomasCovenant in

poster sapphy (i think).

wrote this phrase and to me it is the best and simplest way of rendering the new understanding at its most ludicrous.. ''we believe that the generation that saw the generation that saw 1914 will not pass away until all these things occur''.

this will evidently be extended to ''the generation that saw the generation that saw the generation that saw 1914'' etc.

ThomasCovenant

Poster Sapphy (I think)

wrote this phrase and to me it is the best and simplest way of rendering the new understanding at its most ludicrous.

''we believe that the generation that saw the generation that saw 1914 will not pass away until all these things occur''

This will evidently be extended to ''the generation that saw the generation that saw the generation that saw 1914'' etc

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SCAN OF THE 2009 WORLDWIDE REPORT OF JWS REQUESTED

by steve2 in

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friends

could someone with access to the jw yearbook provide a scan of the country-by-country figures for 2009?

i've seen the overview page scanned from the yearbook of the worldwide totals, but so far no scan of the figures for each country.

many thanks in advance for the scan!.

ThomasCovenant

Thanks Nicolau,

What is the actual page number of the main stats?

Thomas Covenant

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On what page of the new Yearbook is the Statistics?

by ThomasCovenant in

i know it's online as an mp3 but what page in the book is it please?.

specifically the memorial partakers.

thanks anyone.

ThomasCovenant

I know it's online as an mp3 but what page in the book is it please?

Specifically the Memorial Partakers

Thanks anyone

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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower

by Ultimate Reality in

from jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .

article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.

13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.

ThomasCovenant

Thanks to http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/1914_generation.html

Watchtower 1988 October 15 p.4 The Sign—Are You Heeding It?

Might it be, though, that the sign could occur over the span of many human generations? No. The sign is to occur during one particular generation. The same generation that witnessed the beginning of the sign will also witness its climax

There is, however, the danger of becoming impatient. Seventy-four years have passed since the outbreak of World War I in 1914. From a human viewpoint, this may seem a very long time. But some eagle-eyed Christians who saw World War I are still very much alive. Their generation has not passed away.