from memory once a month someone would read out the accounts report from the platform.
this usually said how much went in, how much went out and what the balance was.
details were given as to utility bills etc.. at circuit and district assemblies no details were given, apart from the fact that we were always in a deficit by the sunday lunchtime.. has anyone asked or can anyone ask to see the details?
Thanks
I saw the £700k figure but couldn't make out where the £4 million was. As I said accounts is not my strong point. I suppose it could be viewed as fair enough they don't want to dip into the £700k and so have to keep money coming in every weekend to pay for costs.
Can't make out why telephone bills are about £3000 a year mind you. Or why food costs were £10,000. Unless the food is for elders schools or pioneer schools.
The previous accounts are also available if anyone cares to look.
come on in, the water's fine.
you may even realise you have close friends and family here.
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Hi 'curiousconfused'
You said 'I'm not yet convinced what these excursions on JWN are acheiving'.
Well at the least this forum is giving you an opportunity to say some things that are on your mind but daren't say to another Witness out loud.
Surely that is worth something?
Stick around, join in to your own level of comfort.
Thomas Covenant
from memory once a month someone would read out the accounts report from the platform.
this usually said how much went in, how much went out and what the balance was.
details were given as to utility bills etc.. at circuit and district assemblies no details were given, apart from the fact that we were always in a deficit by the sunday lunchtime.. has anyone asked or can anyone ask to see the details?
Thanks for the link St George.
I have been looking at our local assembly hall accounts. First off, I don't understand accounts.
It seems to me that total assets are about £4 million. And running costs are about £170k.
That should last them about 20 years without any more contributions needing to be asked for.
Why keep saying ''we're short''?
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ScannedAccounts/Ends86/0001056886_ac_20090831_e_c.pdf
before i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.
the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.
mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.
Hi to 'Me Myself and I' too.
recently someone asked for a pamphlet to leave with a neighbour that started studying with jws.
i noticed that they was not a lot available, so have put together something.
please let me know your opinion and any errors.
Thanks again jwfacts.
Shouldn't it be Witnesses instead of Witness in the main title?
before i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.
the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.
mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.
Hello again,
Your comments
''I would say the thing that has kept me in the organization and will likely keep me there for sometime (if I become a full-fledged fader), is the immense amount of love these people have for one another.''
and
''Love is the capital identification of Christ's true followers. I've been in The World while in college and was inactive for most of my young adulthood, and I never once found the deeply fulling relationships that exist for me within the organization.''
I find interesting. I too was brought up in the religion but I doubted it from the minute I reached my early teens and very quickly came to the conclusion that it wasn't what it said it was.
Why then did I stay in till I was in my mid 40's? Because as you said ' It's all I've every known from a spiritual standpoint and It's mostly what I'm familiar with from a social standpoint.''
However, I had to eventually come to the realization that that wasn't a good enough reason to be associated with a religion that I believed was morally, physically and intellectually wrong.
While I was waiting in the hospital to find out whether my wife was going to survive [she did] her emergency operation due to heavy blood loss I wondered how the hell I was going to justify to my (and my wife's) children that their mother had died because of a doctrine of a religious organization that neither of us believed in but carried on with because 'It's all I've every known from a spiritual standpoint and It's mostly what I'm familiar with from a social standpoint.'
Hardly a justification when the shit hits the fan.
I stayed with the Witnesses for 30 years because it was all I knew and I enjoyed the fellowship. Whether it was love or camaraderie I don't know. I've come to realize that that feeling of fellowship is not unique to Jehovah's Witnesses.
Do you believe that ONLY Jehovah's Witnesses are able to experience that loving fellowship?
Do you believe that that feeling is impossible to be replicated in any other social group of people who share the same upbringing and viewpoints?
Do you believe that Muslim mosques do not have the same feeling?
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I hope I'm not coming across to you as too aggressive. I really do think your posting is one of the best I've read
##Disclaimer
before i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.
the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.
mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.
Hello and welcome,
That is one of the more interesting introductions I have read on this site in a while. Hope you stick around and continue. Certainly gives some food for thought on the effects the site has on newcomers and those just looking. Thank you.
My own view?
If someone can read the
whole of 'Crisis of Conscience',
the whole of www.jwfacts.com,
the whole of www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk,
the whole of the wikipedia article on JW's
maybe have a loved one die from the blood or organ transplant (former) doctrine,
and still be linked in any sort of positive way with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
I tip my hat to them (as long as they are not a woman).
recently someone asked for a pamphlet to leave with a neighbour that started studying with jws.
i noticed that they was not a lot available, so have put together something.
please let me know your opinion and any errors.
A4 in UK
recently someone asked for a pamphlet to leave with a neighbour that started studying with jws.
i noticed that they was not a lot available, so have put together something.
please let me know your opinion and any errors.
I prefer one link to 'jwfacts'. I'm not that keen on 'freeminds'.
recently someone asked for a pamphlet to leave with a neighbour that started studying with jws.
i noticed that they was not a lot available, so have put together something.
please let me know your opinion and any errors.
Excellent, thank you.
I prefer the 2 page
My wife prefers the 4 page
