when i was studying with the jws, one of the things i was always .
told was that the bible does not contradict itself.
now i'm no longer.
Jah expressed regret over creating man in his image when
he told Noah to build the ark as well, yet in 1Sam15:29 it
says he can't feel regret.
If the bible is god's message to mankind, (which I don't
personally believe), he seems to be sending a kind of
contradictory message to me
i received this in an email, loved it and thought i'd share with you:.
life is short, break the rules, forgive quickly, kiss slowly, .
love truly, laugh uncontrollably, and never regret anything that made you .
Thanks for sharing that BB
Good rules to live by
when i was studying with the jws, one of the things i was always .
told was that the bible does not contradict itself.
now i'm no longer.
Do you know which translation of the Bible is being quoted?
I think it's the English Standard Version
when i was studying with the jws, one of the things i was always .
told was that the bible does not contradict itself.
now i'm no longer.
When I was studying with the jws, one of the things I was always
told was that the bible does not contradict itself. Now I'm no longer
a believer in god, and see the bible as a book of fairytales just about
on a par with Hansel and Gretel, I couldn't really care less whether it
does or not.
However, I had an email earlier asking me if I thought these two passages
from 1Samuel 15 are contradictory, and they certainly appear to be so.
10 The word of the LORD came to Samuel: 11 "I regret that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following me and has not performed my commandments."
28"The LORD has torn the kingdom of Israel from you this day and has given it to a neighbor of yours, who is better than you. 29 And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or have regret, for he is not a man, that he should have regret."
God seems to experiencing an emotion in verse 11 that verse 29 says he cannot
feel.
Comments?
i didn't bother to answer.
it's probably because i told my ex last week that i will personally sue the individual elders if they meet with my daughter again to counsel her without my parental consent.
we have joint custody and that means they need joint parental consent to counsel a minor.. i am filing for sole custody of our 12 year old daughter and will be serving him with the legal paperwork next week.
Hi DoodleBeaRae
It baffles me to see how they can't just live and let live.
They can't afford to do that. If you da, you will have to be shunned so
that the jws in your hall can't speak to you and find out why, and the
elders can then make up their own version of why you've gone. It's
standatd procedure with those who defy their authority.
The legal threat will have intimidated them as well. They will most
likely feel the need to counsel you regarding the inadvisibility of
taking brothers to court.
Good luck with your custody application.
dedpoet
is the wt policy of five meetings a week, daily text, book study prep, book study, thursday meeting prep, thursday meeting, watchtower pre study, public talk, watchtower study, a deliberate ploy to keep the members under mind control?.
is this 'routine' carefully thought out and planned by someone or did the watchtower society just evolve this way 'accidentally'?.
is there a 'mastermind' at work aiming to keep jws tightly under mind control and if so , who is it?.
I've just been refreshing my memory about the first two watchtower
presidents, CT Russell and Judge Rutherford. It seems that both of
them were very dictatorial, especially Rutherford, who seemed to
be able to get his followers to delay marriage, not have children, and
even build him a luxury villa in San Diego (Beth Sarim).
I guess if someone seems sincere enough, or shouts loud enough,
they will always attract followers, some of whom will obey their every
word, in effect handing over control of their minds to these people.
The watchtower leaders of today may not be as charismatic as CTR
and the judge, but I imagine that they remember how easily those
two controlled their followers, and adopt the same tactics - always
demanding more money, more time, more commitment to the various
duties from the present-day jws. Coupled with the state of expectancy
of "the end" that all jws are taught to live in, and being constantly
reminded of how costly slacking off in these "last days of this system"
could be definitely contibutes to the org's ability to control so many of
their members.
Mybe CTR didn't set out to control his followers to the extent that he
eventually did, but I'd say every watchtower leader since has done so.
CTR taught them how to do it, and they learned their lessons very well.
in a critique of 'captives of a concept', robert king accuses anyone who can't get past all of the watchtower society's 'obstacles' as animalistic and lacking spirituality, including don cameron and ray franz.
it's mindblowing how this bloke can consistently call the watchtower leaders liars, blind, false prophets, dishing up vomitous things, etc, yet continue to preach that they are still a 'faithful steward' uniquely appointed by christ.
so, while it is true that jehovahs witnesses have not come to know the judgment of jehovah, cameron is similarly captive to a concept; and hence, ignorant of jehovahs judgment.
I can only put it down to Mr King being thoroughly confused about where his loyalties lie. He must suffer from some terrible cognitive dissonance.No, he is insane.
I missed him on this forum, if "missed" is the right word, but I have
crossed swords with him elsewhere, and HS is right - he is insane.
i just saw this on yahoo news.
this poor kid's family have some .
odd ideas, in my opinion.
I noticed there was no Tyson, Holyfeild, Lewis, Jones, Hagler, Spinks, Norton, Holmes, De la Hoya,
Maybe her mother is saving those names for her next child.
i just saw this on yahoo news.
this poor kid's family have some .
odd ideas, in my opinion.
I just saw this on yahoo news. This poor kid's family have some
odd ideas, in my opinion. See what you think
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20070623/tuk-a-knockout-name-for-baby-autumn-6323e80.html
A six-week-old baby is facing a fight to learn her full name - after being given 25 middle names honouring the world's greatest ever boxers
The far-from-punchy name given to Autumn Brown, which features a staggering 185 letters, left register office staff reeling.
Autumn's mother, Maria, decided on the knockout title to keep up a family tradition started by her boxing-mad parents, who gave their three children a total of 103 names.
The baby's full name is Autumn Sullivan Corbett Fitzsimmons Jeffries Hart Burns Johnson Willard Dempsey Tunney Schmeling Sharkey Carnera Baer Braddock Louis Charles Walcott Marciano Patterson Johansson Liston Clay Frazier Foreman Brown.
Maria, from Perton, Wolverhampton, told the city's Express and Star: "The whole thing came about because both my mum and dad are obsessed with boxing and have a bit of a daft sense of humour.
"When I was young I couldn't ever remember my name. It took me until the age of 10 to memorise it all."
The 33-year-old mother added: "I'm hoping Autumn has a good sense of humour with her name. It's never done me any harm though."
is the wt policy of five meetings a week, daily text, book study prep, book study, thursday meeting prep, thursday meeting, watchtower pre study, public talk, watchtower study, a deliberate ploy to keep the members under mind control?.
is this 'routine' carefully thought out and planned by someone or did the watchtower society just evolve this way 'accidentally'?.
is there a 'mastermind' at work aiming to keep jws tightly under mind control and if so , who is it?.
I would think the type and frequency of meetings have been around for a while
now Gill. I believe the tms/service meeting came in in the 1940's or thereabouts.
I have no idea how often they met in the early days, when CT Russell started
printing his rag.
The org must realise that the meeting and study schedule they try to impose
on members keeps them far too busy to get involved in much else if they follow
it, so I'd say it's an integral part of their mind control tactics.
Maybe that's one of the main reasons the elders get so anxious when a jw
stops attending meetings regularly - they are afraid that they won't be able
to exert as much control over them.
