my vote goes to daystar!!!
i jump everytime i see his pic!!!.
stillajwexelder---if i wanted to see your avatar in my face, i'd just go look in the mirror!!!
The ugliest I've seen was the one with the ugly guy/girl face with the ponytails, damn I can't remember his name, he had like missing teeth or something, that always made me jump when I saw it LOL! If any of you remember please post it. I don't think he's around here anymore. Daystar's is pretty ugly, he looks like a tormented demon.
IC
i watched "the island" last night with my lyal jw wife.
my apostate buddy told me there were a lot of similarities in the movie with figuring out the jw scam.
i think that's an understatement.. what stuck out to me is how lincoln (the clone) returned to help out his friends.
I loved it, and yes there were a bunch of similarities to JWdom. The wonderful idea of the beautiful Island they could go to if they got picked, is like the carrot that always gets dangled so JW's can do more for the Borg. I would also recommend you watch "The Village" with your wife it also has many similarities to the way the GB try to demonize the world and anything in it and the control they try to exert in the faithfull. I know how you can relate to Lincoln wanting to go back and rescue the others, I feel the same way and am proud to say that my husband and I have successfully helped 11 people see the light about this cult, we are faders so hopefully that number will increase. Keep on fighting the good fight to share the truth about "The Truth" and freeing minds, Good Luck!
IC
what if i asserted the following as true?
the watchtower bible and tract society has no interest in an effective evangelical program of conversion.. would that sound silly?
disfellowshipping would lead to having a big target placed on the ex jw's back at armageddon.. .
Judge Rutherford was NOT of the anointed by his own admission! ; Yet, he did all the policy making and much of the writing that steered the religious orthodoxy of Jehovah's Witnesses in spite of NOT BEING SPIRIT LED.
HE ADMITTED HE WASN'T ANOINTED ? I didn't know that, can you or anyone post where he said that? I SHURRRE would appreciate that! Thanks,
IC
what if i asserted the following as true?
the watchtower bible and tract society has no interest in an effective evangelical program of conversion.. would that sound silly?
disfellowshipping would lead to having a big target placed on the ex jw's back at armageddon.. .
It truly is sad Terry, in one of the fruitless conversations I had with my totally brainwashed regular pioneer mom, she finally said "well if what I am doing (pioneering) proves to be wrong or a waste of time I don't care, because I believe it's doing good and I will do it till the day I die", need I say more? the bastards at the top have promoted this useless pioneering idiocy to give people a sense of importance and a sense that they are doing something to win Jehovah's approval, but in reality it only satisfies the R & F's desire of feeling superior to others who cannot or do not want to participate in this activity. And the WTS Publishing Co. gets these poor blind people to keep pushing this crappy literature and gets the other regular R & F to want to become pioneers so that they can also bask in the glory.
Hence, the stooooopid pioneer schools with their special secret books and all that nonsense. It's so funny, and sad in hindsight the exhilaration my mom would feel in those things, she would come back from that and you couldn't shut her up about the precious spiritual food that Jehovah had served on their table those days . Then she would tease us about the exclusive priviledge to special information by means of some stupid pioneer book that now I know is nothing more than a condensation of Watchtower articles and other JW literature about preaching. She really refused to let my sister and I see the dumb book, because if we wanted one then we would have to become regular pioneers ourselves and then we could enjoy this spiritual banquet!!!!! AAAAARRRGGGGGHHHH what BULSHIT!!!
Thanks for this thread Terry, it's a keeper!
IC
what if i asserted the following as true?
the watchtower bible and tract society has no interest in an effective evangelical program of conversion.. would that sound silly?
disfellowshipping would lead to having a big target placed on the ex jw's back at armageddon.. .
Terry, another GREAT ESSAY!!! That made a whole lot of sense, I'm printing this out, in hopes of maybe enlightening a few more. THANK YOU
IC
the jws will right away turn to isaiah 43:10 and say there is the explanation: .
"but you are my witnesses, o israel!
" says the lord.
Super_Becka, I also believe you nailed it!!! In my brainwashed JW childhood the tentacles of reasoning would at times try to grasp at the different nonsensical beliefs thrown at me by my completely braindead JW mom, and at those times I would ask "but why if those rules were given to the Israelites do we have to follow them? we're not Jews" to which she would always reply "well, you see we being Jehovah's present chosen people have to abide by the same rules he gave his original chosen people yadayadayada" then I would just give up trying to understand and just push it in the back of my mind thinking that when I was grown I would eventually understand, but you know? I got used to doing that so much, that even when I became a grown up, if I didn't understand something, I just figured that these people (the GB) were so much more theocratic and were after all Jehovah's Chosen few, that they knew what they were talking about, so I didn't have to question or think about it, this is the typical JW also.
Sad really, how many people have given up their thinking and reasoning ability to these A**H***'s!!
IC
i'm reading a book and this morning i got to a part where it claimed that the life of jesus was very similar, if no downright copied on ancient pagan myths of different men-gods.
(amongst them osiris, dionysos, attis, adonis, bacchus and mithra.).
it said that in the different versions of the stories these elements could be found:.
Lilycurly, You are spot on!! After extensive research this is also what I have found, after you finish reading your book, may I recommend the book "Ceasars Messiah, the Roman Consiracy to Invent Jesus", it is very interesting, it shows another angle to this mess, it shows how many similarities there were between Jesus's life and times and Titus's Military Campaign, a really good read!
IC
happy valentines day watchtower!
my special present was to attempt to make my 500 mark in delivering antiwitness material in my community.
i completed that yesterday.
CONGRATULATIONS ON MEETING YOUR GOAL CARLA , I wish you continued success!!!!
IC
i just finished this fellow's book - "the true power of water".
in it the basic precept of 'hado' is explained and he proves with experimental evidence his theorum of life vibrations to the quality of life.... the below is an introduction on his website; www.hado.com .
i have found this to be facsinating in spite of my 'western' thinking and predudices.
AK - Jeff I agree with you, I read Emoto's book "The Hidden Messages in Water" and now see things in a different way also, it makes perfect sense. We are 70% water and when we say negative words to or about ourselves we get a negative effect, the opposite is also true, positive thoughts have always been known to bring about positive results.
I don't care about the double blind tests or whatever, I proved his theory to myself and others when I was reading about his experiment about the lake in Japan I believe, that was a stinky, murky water mess and after the incantations became completely clear, I then decided to test this for myself. I had a bottle with a piece of a plant in it which I was hoping to transplant but had not done so in 3 months, you can imagine how nasty that water was, it was completely murky and had slimy things floating in it, I held it and said incantations ie I am greatful for what you do for us, I love you and other positive things all the while really feeling what I was saying, I did this with my eyes closed, and when I was done I opened my eyes and to my astonishment the water was comletely crystal clear, I was holding it up with a puzzled look in my eyes, when my husband came downstairs I said in disbelief "Honey look at the water", he said "Yeah you finally changed it, so what?" (he had been telling just the prior week that, the water was gross and was going to stink up the kitchen), I told him that I hadn't changed it, he said with a puzzled look on his face "I don't understand, what do you mean?", I then told him about what I had done and we were in complete awe.
I prayed or said incantations to that water for 2 more months without ever changing it, and it remained comletely crystal clear, I can tell you that this is true, if it can do that to murky water, imagine what it can do for ourselves! Thank you for posting this Jeff, may you continue on your journey as I have, realizing that there are things that can't be explained scientifically yet, but that doesn't mean they don't exist and that we can't benefit from them.
IC
email drive
we are still working to collect email addresses of jehovah's witnesses and others who may be interested in the blood issue.. this is a means for there to be direct exposure for otherwise close-minded jws.
many are reading the ap new article in their paper.
Severus, is there another mailing going out soon? because I have some email addresses I'de like this info sent to.
Thanks,
IC
