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  have fun editing this jaracz picture

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  so what do you think he is scheming by his looks?.

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  "i will choke every single apostate on jwd if that is the last thing i do" - teddy jackarse.. .

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  ahahahahahahaha, you guys are crazy, I especially love the one of him as an honorary catholic!

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  The God Delusion

  by Peppermint in

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  old dawkins is on the rampage again.

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  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/5372458.stm.

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  Hey that sounds like a very interesting book, he makes a whole lot of sense, I gotta get it! thanks.

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  WORLD PEACE TO BREAK OUT ANY SECOND NOW!

  by badboy in

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  my care had an interesting conversion with 2 male jws.. they said that world peace(or should that be armageddon?

  ) will happen any second soon, so they were desperately knocking on people doors to convert them!.

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  Well if they are saying that the End is so freaking close, just seconds away now, when next summer rolls around and nothing happens, will all the JW's be free to go since it will again have been BS? Sadly I don't think so, they will spin it, and spin it again, and these seriously brainwashed people will keep believing all the spiritual trash the WTS throws their way. I wish there was a way to open these people eyes so they can see how they are being taken advantage of, but sadly only a few of them will see the truth about "The Truth".

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  What is God???

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  is god just a ball of energy hanging around?.

  is god a spirit person as the jw's suggest?.

  ok, so i realize that there are a large number of atheists here, of which group i am ever so slowly counting myself among, who would love to shout down the topic with 'there is no god".

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  Interesting views everyone, Jaguarbass as time goes on I am leaning more in your same direction. I've at times wondered if when we pray, we are really praying to our higher self. I believe in a higher being, or conciousness I just call it the Creator, I don't think it is supposed to interact with us in the state we are currently in, nor do I think that he/she/it really cares what happens here on earth, these I believe are just things we experience while in our current bodies, but once we die, we go back to where we came from, and then we can decide what other experience we want to go through, I think that what happens here on earth does not affect who we really are, maybe just what we will experience next. Ultimately it really doesn't matter, because when we pass on to the other realm, all our questions will be answered.

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  Why are the world's anointed not called to Brooklyn to be Governing Body?

  by free2beme in

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  when i was in the witnesses, and near the end of my time in.

  there was the whole new understanding, of putting non-anointed people in positions in the organization that were normally something an anointed person would be in.

  i remember them mentioning that the amount of anointed was dwindling and there needed to be people in these positions of responsibility, to make sure the work continues.. after this was highlighted and all good witnesses swallowed this thinking hook line and sinker.

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  What I have learned in the course of my unbrainwashing is that....there are no annointed. This is just a made up thing, to be able to govern the flock. If you do research on the first president of the WTS Rutherford a supposed annointed and drunkard Rutherford another supposed annointed you realize that this is all bunk, these guys did things that were very questionable to say the least. I believe that some people convince themselves that they are annointed (whatever that really means), maybe they go into some kind of trance where they feel weird stuff, but more than likely they have mental issues, I have known a few where this was definitely the case.

  The fact that the GB doesn't give a damn what any of them has to say all the while teaching that these people are the ones handling the spiritual food given to the R & F, is a clear sign that they themselves know this is BS, I mean come on, what are the chances that Freddie Franz was of the annointed and somehow his nephew Ray (whom I do admire) eventually happens to be annointed too.

  At one point of my awakening after I was convinced that the WTS was wrong, I believed that the evil slave was leading them and that Jehovah would clear it up, back when I would post on ewatchman this is what he believes, I began researching different translations of the bible and bought an NIV bible, wow, I was blown away at what a difference a good translation makes, at one point I started seeing how the WTS has undermined Jesus's role in the religion, how everything is only about Jehovah, my appreciation for Jesus and his sacrifice grew so much, that out of the blue I said "Jesus I accept you into my heart" what happened next really was amazing, I felt overcome with love, I had goosebumps and just felt an incredible feeling" I was confused to say the least, I started believing that we all go to heaven, just from reading the bible because this is what is appears to say, in Romans.

  Well, if an active JW would have had a similar experience I can see how they would believe they were annointed. I don't want to hijack this thread, but feel I need to explain what happened next... I later realized that I made that happen myself, I believed in something so strongly that those feelings just welled up in me. When I kept moving on in my journey I studied the bible with the Hebrew lexicon, and a bible computer program that shows the original hebrew words and their english translation, I was amazed at what a farce it all was, I found many error, contradictions and utter nonsense, and I thought how could this be the word of God? To make a long story short, I no longer believe that the bible is the inerrant word of god, it's just a mix of myths, stories, wisdom literature and some history, today you can clearly see where the Hebrews got some of these stories and such from sometimes almost word for word, it's amazing really that so many people have believed this stuff. Anyway, I'lle stop here, that stuff is for another post. Soooo.......basically I believe the worlds "annointed" are not called to Brooklyn to be GB members, because the GB know they made the stuff up and don't want anyone taking the control from them.

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  omg i am totally floored

  by akafreelife in

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  i have been hearing about a secret socioty called the illuminati.

  i started seeing some connections on my own between illuminati and what i heard when i was at the meetings when i was younger.

  holy shite they are directly connected.

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  Kaput, I noticed the purple triangle is one of the symbols you posted, interesting!

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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  WOW this is a great thread! A warm welcome to the lurking elders who courageously decided to finally join ! Your prescence here is so very helpful to those currently active JW's who are noticing something is not right with the organization but are too afraid to speak out. Thank you OldSoul, AlanF and all the others who have contributed.

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  POLL : Your reaction IF all religion was suddenly banned worldwide

  by fish in

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  im interested in hearing what your personal reaction would be if (i say if because probably 99.9% here believe this will never happen) all the religions of the world were to be suddenly banned/shut down/decommissioned/liquidated/dismembered/etc.. by the political powers of the world.

  what would your first post here say?

  would it change your view of jehovah...of the "org"?

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  I don't believe this could ever happen, but if it did.....I would be celebrating, and never and I repeat never would I even think for a moment that the JW's were somehow right after all, because after all I have learned about my sad religion, and all religion in general, there is no doubt in my mind that all of it is BS.

  About the Gaia thingy, maybe that wouldn't be such a bad idea. None of the religious systems so far have been able to bring peace, because they are all deluded into thinking they are the true religion, well, THERE IS NO TRUE RELIGION!

  John Lennons song brings tears to my eyes, because his words are so true, in a world like that...although I think it would be very difficult to make that happen, we would all be happy!
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  Occult sublimal imagery-what`s your view?

  by dido in

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  i came accross this today, and am shocked by it, has anyone got any views about it, as can`t believe that this has gone on?

  http://www.bigwig.net/knots/nightmares/occult.htm.

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  dido, in your case and in cases of people that are sensitive to these things, I can see how they would be disturbing, what I meant is that to people like me and others here who no longer believe in the existence of the biblical Satan character or his demons it is quite amusing. I used to believe that demons at times bothered me when I had these vivid dreams where I couldn't move and I would feel their prescense and would try to say Jehovah's name (that's what we were told to do) but couldn't, anyway, I would wake my husband up making these weird noises and really freaked out, thankully I haven't had any more of those. I read this article on the web about sleep paralyses and it describes exactly what I felt, my mom also suffers from this but she is sure it's demons (she's a regular pioneer and has had this problem since she was a little girl), and it is hereditary, what they said is that what you will see is usually what you fear most, it's a very common thing, and many people like me confused it for demon problems. I was very glad to have read that, together with researching about the Satan beliefs and how they evolved to what is common belief now, I am glad to be free from those fears.

  Love and Peace to you dido,

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  3 Million year old pre-human found

  by monkeyshine in

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  i don't know if anyone has posted this yet but...just in case.. .

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  Yes indeed, this is labeled as a pre-human, why do they always want to insist that it had anything to do with humans? How many millions of species of animals have become extinct in the last 1 million years, why don't they ever say that maybe it was a now extinct species of apes? but no, they want to grab on to anything that even remotely shows it had any similarity to humans instead of accept that we were designed and created by a higher intelligence.

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