Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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Will the wts face a Muslim backlash over the new tract?

by fullofdoubtnow in

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they do, after all, classify all religions apart from theirs as false, and we've seen in the last few days that it doesn't take much to inflame the more militant factions of islam.

there's a large muslim community around here, and i can't see some of them taking kindly to being labelled a false religion.. this may not be the best time for the wts to be distributing such "information", but i expect they will go ahead, oblivious as to the sort of reaction it may provoke.

i hope that nothing much comes of this campaign, but in the sensitive times in which we all live, i can't help wondering....

ICBehindtheCurtain

Regarding what Muslims think about JW's - a while back I was lurking on a Muslim forum and they were talking about the JW's saying how this is the most dangerous religion to them , because the JW's don't keep their beliefs to themselves like most christians, they instead go out and try to convert people into their religion - I kid you not! I was very surprised when I saw this, because I didn't even think they knew the JW's existed, but trust me they had alot of info on the WTS, they were talking about all the date setting, and they even had a scanned copy of a watchtower from the 70's the one that talked about 1975 being a very important date. So yes let them take this tract to the nearby mosque or to the home of radicals and see how Jehovah will protect the them if they are attacked.

IC

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Does the Pope have to apologize to the Muslims?

by free2beme in

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i heard today that the muslims want the pope to apologize, and at the same time i have heard muslims say that even an apology would not be enough.

a world leader of a country, has certain diplomatic concerns about what they say and do.

however, does a religious leader have these same concerns?

ICBehindtheCurtain

NO he should not! I am not a christian and couldn't care less about the Pope but by their actions they have shown that what he said is true, I think that the main reason these people react this way to any little criticism of their religin is because of ignorance, they are never allowed unbiased exposure to the outside world, they are fed hatred towards the outside world since they are children and this is what they really believe, If these people were allowed to make their own decisions and were free to challenge their beliefs, many of them would leave, the leaders know this, and hence the problems we have today. Much like the control the WTS has on R & F, they cannot question their beliefs, or read material that criticizes it, because the leaders know what the end result would be, except that the WTS wouldn't kill you for leaving.

IC

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Cartoon of Pope on Aljazeera.Net

by Tigerman in

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this pope shotgunning the dove of peace.

wow, muslims sure have a great sense of humor !

ICBehindtheCurtain

It's really amazing isn't it? They can criticize and make fun of christians (not that I'm one) but if anyone makes fun of their religion there is hell to pay? What BS. Why are they not allowed to question their religion and opt out of it if they change their minds? A belief system that cannot be scrutinized has something seriously wrong with it. If something is true no amount of investigating will prove it otherwise, the only place where there is absolute truth is in nature, everything else has been invented by someone, for example we know that we need oxygen to breath, you can investigate all you want and the facts will still remain the facts.

IC

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Can close proximity to Jehovah ruin the faith of exJW's?

by truthseeker in

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this is a point i have been thinking about for a long time.. in the organization, we are not encouraged to have a personal relationship with jesus - not even a nominal one.

the society even published a book entitled "draw close to jehovah", encouraging everyone to get to know their creator.. there is nothing wrong with getting to know god, but when you look at this aspect in context of the jehovah's witness faith, it is possible that after learning about the cult, our relationship with jehovah is ruined.

we are told to pray to jehovah on a daily basis.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I agree with you, that JW's put too much enfasis on Jehovah mostly and rarely Jesus. But, all I can tell you is to research just who the Bible's Jehovah really is, there was a post on this a couple of days ago, I'm not saying that there is no God or Creator because I really believe there is, just not the one mentioned in the Bible. There is a very deep rabbit hole when it comes to religion, but to get at the truth you have to be willing to take the pill, like in the movie "The Matrix" and see what a dreamworld we have all been living in. It's scary at first but once your eyes are opened free - like the very Bible says "you will learn the truth and the truth will set you free". The Jesus thing, I suggest you go to the website www.jesusneverexisted.com check it out there is alot of information on there, this will help you see what a load of BS has been dropped on all of us for all these years. Good luck on your journey. Mine has brough me to a place of peace and happiness as I have never felt before.

IC

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Daily life of a Jehovahs Witness

by Maysun in

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Po's son - DAMN THAT WAS SPOT ON! I loved that!

IC

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Top five things you'll never hear The Society admit, (but they should).

by read good books in

-we were wrong.

-we were wrong, and were sorry about that.. 3.-we were wrong.

were sorry about that; and we should do something to make ammends.

ICBehindtheCurtain

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are so right! Especially the "We were wrong and we don't give a sh*t "parts.

IC

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How do you feel about the name Jehovah?

by JWdaughter in

do you use it anymore?

do you care?

do you cringe when you hear it?

ICBehindtheCurtain

Thank you so much for that info Ian, I printed it out, and might mail it to some people. I've researched this subject and found out about this info, but I like the way yours is put together. If only the R & F knew who they are really praying to, they'd be shocked!

IC

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Is their a religion that matches our biblical knowledge and experience?

by JH in

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after spending years with the witnesses, and the knowledge we have now, is there a religion that matches our biblical knowledge and experience?.

i think that we are way beyond any religion that exists, and that's why we stay out of religion today..

ICBehindtheCurtain

JH, I'm with you on that, for the first time in my life I see clearly. I've come to the conclusion that Religion is a tool that has been used for keeping the people under control and giving control to those that invent the religious system. I have also realized that some people need religion in their lives to keep them in check, and without this belief system they would be completely out of control, believe me I've seen it happen. Other people live perfectly good lives without religion. They are kind, they raise their children to be respectable members of society etc.

As to your question, is there a religion that matches the biblical knowledge and experience we've attained? HELL NO, I am done with that BS. What I do believe is that there is a Creator, or Creators because I don't believe that all of this happened just by accident. Why we were created? I don't know, neither does anyone else on this earth, if they say they do, they are basing it on some ancient book that other people put together from stories taken from other civilizations, but they didn't know either. What is real is that we are here now! lets make the best of it, set goals for ourselves and try to reach them, do things that will enhance our time here for ourselves and for others.

IC

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If Money Were No Object, What Hobby(s) Would You Pursue?

by Stephanus in

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i'd probably have a pretty well stocked backyard machine shop, complete with lathe(s), milling machine, welding gear, etc.

i'm a fitter and turner by trade, so it kind of makes sense...

ICBehindtheCurtain

definitely Traveling, I would love to go to Spain,Egypt, Italy, Greece, Rome to see all the ruins and enjoy the culture, I would also love to tag along with an archeologist and help excavate ancient stuff.

IC

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How Much Do You Wanna Bet That The Pope Is Going To Be Assassinated???

by minimus in

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.......or at least an attempt will be made on his life for insulting islam?

ICBehindtheCurtain

What is truly amazing to me is that the Pope can have the audacity to say anything about spreading religion with a sword, does he not know his own church's history? The christians spread their religion in the america's in exactly the same manor, you either convert and abandon your pagan ways or you die. The indians in Mexico and the Carribean didn't stand a chance, these people were tortured treated like savages, the women were raped and killed, the ones left alive were enslaved, their culture basically wiped out, all for a load of BS meant to control the masses and keep them obedient. All three major religions Jews, Muslims and Christians originated with the same book, the Torah or Old testament, and most of us know, these stories were made up, they are all wrong, but unfortunately they all believe they are right and will continue the bloodshed until they have killed each other off! I wish they would see the big picture, that we are all HUMANS, and we all share this same planet, It's time to move on and realize that these ancient stories are just that, stories, with no basis on fact.

IC