Donating was my first outright "rebellion" and quite freeing. I plan on giving regularly from now on.
for Dorothy!
Ingenuous
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Blood giving =ed LIBERATION
by bem ini had to share a moment from my life that came today!!
it was one of those inspiring things that hits you like a lead balloon, you know the feeling?
like good grief that is awesome, to have something that should be so obvious, but so elusive that you hadn't noticed it till now.. when i was growing up it was mentioned how family members ( not raised a jw) had needed blood and different ones gave blood and felt good about themselves for having made the effort to make the donation.
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heard back from my dad - you won't believe it!
by freedomlover inhey all you great people - in case you read my letter i sent to my dad the other day you may be interested in his reply.
(see topic history for letter to my dad) .
i am so happy and relieved.
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I can only torture myself with fantasies of getting the same response from my Dad.
I'm so jealous and very happy for you, freedomlover!
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Do active jw's count their time they post here for field service?
by HockeyMullet ini'm just curious.
it looks like there's a couple "unbaptised" individuals here.
i suppose you wouldn't have to detail it in the service reports, although i haven't filled one out for quite a while.
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I sure counted the time when I posted to "opposers." I started counting the minute I logged on with the "intention" to find a post to respond to and ended when I logged-off my computer.
One of my more difficult decisions was figuring out whether I could count links I posted to brochures as placements. My elder Dad and I bounced that one around a bit - can't remember what we decided, though.
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Fridge Game, ton's of fun!!
by avishai in.
go here http://www.melbs.org/projects/fridge/ to make a fridge poem,save it and post it here!!.
here's mine.
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Ingenuous
I guess we all stuck with the e.e. cumming set, huh?
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"Modern" Kingdom Melodies?
by drew sagan ini remember that in the km one month a while back there was mention of people who where recording kingdom melodies but making them sound more modern.
where can you find this stuff?
i'm sure it's a scream.
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Ingenuous
I used to have a copy of a CD that was making it's way up and down the east coast that sounded really good. Wish I could find it. The congregation got laid-out for spreading it around.
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They really make this much too easy...
by Ingenuous in*** w63 11/15 pp.
689-690 execution of divine judgment upon false religion ***.
6 necessarily there must be just one true religion, just as there is only one true science.
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*** w63 11/15 pp. 689-690 Execution of Divine Judgment upon False Religion ***
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Necessarily there must be just one true religion, just as there is only one true science. Nineteen centuries ago a learned defender of the true religion warned against the "oppositions of science falsely so called," or, "contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge," because the acceptance of such falsely called science or knowledge caused many believers to turn away from the true faith. (1 Tim. 6:20, AV; RS) The one true religion must be in perfect harmony with science that is proved, not just called so.7
Science or knowledge that is true, because it is proved, reveals the laws of our universe. It brings to our view more and more plainly the wonderful harmony of all the works of creation and all the laws of our physical universe...8
One God alone could be supreme and all-powerful; and one such God could mean only one true religion, namely, the one right worship of this one supreme, almighty God. His religion is one of right belief and is harmonious in all its expressions, just as true physical science is harmonious and not self-contradictory. The true religion of the one God does not disagree with itself, deny itself or get divided with itself. If it had internal disagreement, contradiction and disunity, it could never stand; it could not be simple truth; it would disagree with the scientific laws of the universe; it could not triumph in the long-drawn-out conflict between true religion and false. But true religion must triumph, because truth cannot be destroyed. That is why, despite all the many false religions in the world, the true religion has lived through till this day, although it stands alone. Certainly the one almighty God could not do otherwise than preserve his own religion. -
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Had a major illness disappear after leaving WT?
by by grace ini'm looking for people who have had the experience of becoming very sick with chronic pain, an auto-immune disease, or some major health problem (collitus, diabetes, etc.
) while being involved with jehovah's witnesses, who then had a complete reversal after leaving the jehovah's witnesses.. i am planning to write a book about my experience, and i'd like to get an idea of how many people out there have had a similar one.
i was diagnosed with advanced grave's disease (hyperthyroid), which is an auto-immune disease, and it amazingly "went away" shortly after i left the organization.
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Yes - chronic pain and exhaustion that would leave me on my back by early afternoon. Totally gone after leaving the Org. Also - my chemical sensitivities/allergies are about half as severe as they were. I'm also on half the antidepressant and antianxiety meds I was on.
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Sayings that keep you afloat?
by Ingenuous indo you have any sayings/anecdotes/mantras/cliches that help you cope?
i've heard a few that i employ with my own modifications:.
i like the "dear dad" letter, though i don't know if my folks would appreciate it if i applied to leaving the org.. "if my mother knew about this, she'd be spinning in her grave.
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Ingenuous
Do you have any sayings/anecdotes/mantras/clichés that help you cope? I've heard a few that I employ with my own modifications:
I like the "Dear Dad" letter, though I don't know if my folks would appreciate it if I applied to leaving the Org.
"If my mother knew about this, she'd be spinning in her grave." "That's OK, she needs the exercise."
"My family has so many issues, they have subscriptions."
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The Blood doctrine - A Medical or Scriptural issue?
by Jourles inif you were to ask any witness whether or not the blood doctrine is scripturally or medically based, you would receive the same answer 100% of the time.
"scripturally, of course.
there is one component in particular which shows the wts uses medically based information to cement its postion on what is and what is not allowed for a witness to accept.
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As Marvin stated, this change is not understood too well, even by HLC members as evident by the discussion in the thread noted below.
http://www.noblood.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=2662I had no idea.
My aunt is dying of cancer and was offered this type of treatment. She turned it down because she thought it violated the Society's rules.
I just gave her son a copy of the relevant section of the October 15, 2000 QFR.
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I can't do it. Am I supposed to?
by Ingenuous inmy parents are acting loopy.
not toward me, but toward my sister.
she's not doing anything wrong, just experiencing the normal ups and downs and unplanned surprises of marriage.
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As far as your Father thinking he had a right to enter your home to 'investigate' - what is that about?
Every time I think of it, it reminds me of a parent searching their teenager's room while the kid's at school to find out if they're using drugs.
Only, I'm an adult, with my own home, and I'm capable of engaging in an honest and intelligent conversation if I'm asked a question.
Apparently, with my parents, "I'll always be your mother/father" actually means 'We will always see you as in immature dependent and we retain the right to treat you like a child - like our property.' My father did say he "retains the right" to interrogate me about my spirituality and worship-related activities. He hasn't resorted to employing this "right" yet, so he has no idea I've retained the right to tell him to mind his own business.
If I don't grow up, none of us will.