Going along pretty well, I guess. Haven't been to a meeting in almost a year and a half. I live in a city, however, that though large, is full of a lot of witnesses I know. I've bumped in to a couple people I used to be friends with, though miraculously, the subject of the "truth" never came up. Probably on account of the fact that the people I've bumped in to are actually really cool people, and don't put as much stock in judging based on appearance or ignorance as many witnesses do.
Somedays I have a sadistic hankering for some jackass elder to call me or show up at my door, just so I could f*#& with his head. Luckily, the elders in the congregation I left never gave a shit about me, even when I really wanted them to. But that being said, I know that if they found out how I really felt, they'd surely take an interest, and try to boot me.
Vive La Résistance!
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So....How's The F A D I N G Coming Along?
by minimus inso far, i've been left alone.
no one's bugging me.
i hear the c.o.
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"Are Jehovah's Witnesses a sect or a cult?"
by Cognitive_Dissident inthe following is taken directly from the reasoning book, page 202, under the heading jehovah's witnesses.
parentheses are mine .
are jehovah's witnesses a sect or a cult?".
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Hmm, yeah, first of all, sorry about posting the same thing twice. I went back to edit it to put my comments in red and inadvertently started a new thread.
Greendawn, I totally agree with you.
But above all is the emotional intimidation with their severe menacing God figure and the very dictatorial hierarchy that give the game away.
The psychological destruction that the witnesses inflict is their most telling aspect, in my opinion.
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"Are Jehovah's Witnesses a sect or a cult?"
by Cognitive_Dissident inthe following is taken directly from the reasoning book, page 202, under the heading jehovah's witnesses.
parentheses are mine .
are jehovah's witnesses a sect or a cult?".
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LOL. Nice.
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"Are Jehovah's Witnesses a sect or a cult?"
by Cognitive_Dissident inthe following is taken directly from the reasoning book, page 202, under the heading jehovah's witnesses.
parentheses are mine .
are jehovah's witnesses a sect or a cult?".
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the following is taken directly from the Reasoning Book, page 202, under the heading Jehovah's Witnesses.
parentheses are mine
Are Jehovah's Witnesses a sect or a cult?"
Some define sect to mean a group that has broken away from an established religion. Other apply the term to a group that follows a particular human leader or teacher (yeah, jdubs don't do that at all) . The term is usually used in a derogatory way. Jehovah's Witnesses are not an offshoot of some church (really? just 'cuz they say it doesn't make it so) but include persons from all walks of life and from many religious backgrounds. They do not look to any human (right, except the group of old, senile f*@#ers in Brooklyn) , but rather to Jesus Christ, as their leader. (who, in light of recent publications and articles, doesn't carry as much weight as he used to.)
A cult is a religion that is said to be unorthodox or that emphasizes devotion according to prescribed ritual (and five meetings a week and at least ten hours of service a month under threat of underhanded or overt consequences doesn't fit this definition somehow?) . Many cults follow a living human leader, and often their adherents live in groups apart from the rest of society. The standard for what is orthodox, however, should be God's word, and Jehovah's Witnesses strictly adhere to the Bible. Their worship is a way of life, not a ritual devotion (yes, absolutely. Those politically climbing elders and c.o.'s who mete out bullshit punishments in judicial committees are really practicing what they preach.) They neither follow a human (this is true, the follow humans, not a human.) , nor isolate themselves from the rest of society. They live and work in the midst of other people (just because witnesses don't live on a compound in nevada and wear white robes, they isolate themselves through arrogance and the belief that everyone else is simply the walking dead. Which is worse?) .
It's amazing to me that I was so completely blinded to the obvious hypocrisy of this supposed "answer" to the question of whether witnesses were a cult or not.
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"Are Jehovah's Witnesses a sect or a cult?"
by Cognitive_Dissident inthe following is taken directly from the reasoning book, page 202, under the heading jehovah's witnesses.
parentheses are mine .
are jehovah's witnesses a sect or a cult?".
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the following is taken directly from the Reasoning Book, page 202, under the heading Jehovah's Witnesses.
parentheses are mine
Are Jehovah's Witnesses a sect or a cult?"
Some define sect to mean a group that has broken away from an established religion. Other apply the term to a group that follows a particular human leader or teacher(yeah, jdubs don't do that at all). The term is usually used in a derogatory way. Jehovah's Witnesses are not an offshoot of some church(really? just 'cuz they say it doesn't make it so) but include persons from all walks of life and from many religious backgrounds. They do not look to any human(right, except the group of old, senile f*@#ers in Brooklyn), but rather to Jesus Christ, as their leader.(who, in light of recent publications and articles, doesn't carry as much weight as he used to.)
A cult is a religion that is said to be unorthodox or that emphasizes devotion according to prescribed ritual(and five meetings a week and at least ten hours of service a month under threat of underhanded or overt consequences doesn't fit this definition somehow?). Many cults follow a living human leader, and often their adherents live in groups apart from the rest of society. The standard for what is orthodox, however, should be God's word, and Jehovah's Witnesses strictly adhere to the Bible. Their worship is a way of life, not a ritual devotion(yes, absolutely. Those politically climbing elders and c.o.'s who mete out bullshit punishments in judicial committees are really practicing what they preach.) They neither follow a human(this is true, the follow humans, not a human.), nor isolate themselves from the rest of society. They live and work in the midst of other people(just because witnesses don't live on a compound in nevada and wear white robes, they isolate themselves through arrogance and the belief that everyone else is simply the walking dead. Which is worse?).
It's amazing to me that I was so completely blinded to the obvious hypocrisy of this supposed "answer" to the question of whether witnesses were a cult or not.
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Swartzentruber Amish Ordnung
by blondie insometimes i wonder, is there a religion with worse doctrines.
yes and no, while the rules about clothing and material possessions is more strict, much is very similar to the wts.. http://www.amishabuse.com/ordnung.htm.
the ordnung is not about scripture out of the new testament or the salvation of your soul, but it is about control.
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That ordnung is absolutely maddening, and the story is absolutely heartbreaking.
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Swartzentruber Amish Ordnung
by blondie insometimes i wonder, is there a religion with worse doctrines.
yes and no, while the rules about clothing and material possessions is more strict, much is very similar to the wts.. http://www.amishabuse.com/ordnung.htm.
the ordnung is not about scripture out of the new testament or the salvation of your soul, but it is about control.
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Only slightly off topic, but has anyone seen or heard about this documentary? Doesn't sound like the Swartzentruber branch would have it. The practice that is, not the DVD.
Devil's Playground
This Sundance Festival sensation has attracted attention because of its jarring images of Amish kids immersed in debauchery: plain-dressed girls in white bonnets slugging back beers and flicking ashes from their cigarettes, boys passing out in the back of pickups after all-night parties, even Amish teens in bed together. But like a good drama, it's the characters themselves and their heartbreaking dilemma that linger in the mind. In the Amish vernacular, "Devil's Playground" refers to the "English" or outside world. The protected teens are suddenly thrust into this world upon their 16th birthday as they begin "Rumspringa," a period during which they decide whether to join the church as adults. Crystallizing this predicament is the 73-minute documentary's most compelling figure, 18-year-old Faron, a preacher's son fighting drug addiction. His earnest intent to return to the church and astonishing articulateness makes his misadventures in the drug underworld and penal system undeniably poignant.
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JW hypocrisy
by rick1199 ini am trying to build a list of hipocrisy with in the borg.
i dont mean things like the un scandal as people in the hall wont have heard of that, but smaller stuff that goes on all the time with out the rank and file noticing.
infant baptism.
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Superstitions are wrong, but if Witnesses have a run of bad luck they will burn any second hand goods.
Sorry, never hear such a thing. Must be some local freeky metally ill witness proposing something like that.
Danny
I can think of three people off the top of my head that burned cds, clothes, and other items after not being able to sleep, having bad dreams, or feeling cold drafts in their houses/apartments.
It's not one random witness with a freaky mental illness(although the definition of mental illness as it relates to witnesses in general is open to interpretation) that perpetuates this one. It's actually quite common. "Stuff going horribly wrong at home? Must be that new cd you bought with the celtic music on it. Burn it!"
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Michael Jackson to sell Neverland to the WT?
by moshe inrumors are flying that michael jackson will soon close the deal on the sale of his vacated neverland ranch to the watchtower society.
they are selling their ny city bethel properties and moving to a nicer climate due to the poor health of the aging bethel staff.
the ranch seems to be an ideal fit for for them.
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Yep, its true.
And Bubbles will head the Awake editorial staff.
steve
I'm pretty sure Bubbles has been on the payroll for some time now. I just read one of the recent awakes, the one on old age, and my exact thought was, "A monkey wrote this."
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Seriously, they`re burning down our embassys now.
by Hellrider inthe cartoon-rage continues.
in syria, protesters have now burned the norwegian and danish embassys to the ground.
the latest news is that they are rioting in copenhagen, denmark, where 200 moslems have stormed the sentral station (the railwaystation), and throwing bricks and rocks.
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Wonderful quote Elsewhere, here's another one that seems appropriate -
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." -Steven Weinberg
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