Posts by ppunk

Hi all, I am hoping some of you will find a few moments of time to reply to this request for help. I am researching the impact of the internet on people's journey out of JWism. I invite everyone to write anything from a sentence to a couple of paragraphs (or more, if desired) relating how the internet has affected your exit. Consider if you were still a JW when you first encountered ex-JW sites or information and this helped your leaving, or if you had exited and have used the internet to find more information about JWs or if you have ever used the exJW boards (such as this one) to gain support in your experiences, make social contacts etc. I am writing an essay and will use relevant quotes and provide links to your posts. I can include your real name if you wish me too, or just a screen name. If you would like your experiences included but don't wish to be identified in any way, I will be happy to accept a PM of your experiences with a request for anonymity. I don't need a reason, just the request. The essay I am writing will be converted to a webpage format, and I will consider hosting it when it is done (if I can figure out how). Many thanks in advance! ppunkgoddess

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fake wt covers?

by carla in

where are you guys getting the fake wt covers?

or do just make them up as you go?

love em'!

ppunk

<div>I LOVED the "2034 what the hell were you expecting?" one

TOTALLY fabulous!

I have the skills and photoshop, sadly I dont' have many watchtowers or Awakes to work on. If anyone wants to email me some scans I'll do some up for ya'll.

ppunk</div>

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Needing help with some scriptures

by ppunk in

hi all, thanks for opening this thread.

i have heard this is the place to post for bona fide jw related discussion, so i have a challenge for all of you who are interested.

i am looking at sending an email to my mom who has been shunning me.

ppunk

thank you JWfacts.

That is only a small part of my story. I know what you mean about "it can only work if we talk about day to day things". I tried this tack with my mum when I was living with her. After a "discussion" where she KEPT bringing the JW stuff into the convo, baiting me, (me trying hard to steer the convo away cause I knew what was coming) it ended with her kicking me and my daughter onto the streets in the middle of winter (with instructions for me not to tell anyone that she had kicked me out).

I am too strong minded and outspoken to be able to bite my tongue around her for any length of time. It is all or nothing with me, unfortunately. At the moment it is "nothing".

I have just read some of the WT article posted on this site "When a loved one leaves Jehovah". I am now wondering if the letter she sent me was inspired by this article rather than her love. :(

How long ago was that issue of the WT released? She would have written the letter in the first week of July.

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Needing help with some scriptures

by ppunk in

hi all, thanks for opening this thread.

i have heard this is the place to post for bona fide jw related discussion, so i have a challenge for all of you who are interested.

i am looking at sending an email to my mom who has been shunning me.

ppunk

Sorry, I did actually include paragraph breaks in my posts but they come out as one block of text, if anyone knows how to avoid this can they say please? thanks.

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Needing help with some scriptures

by ppunk in

hi all, thanks for opening this thread.

i have heard this is the place to post for bona fide jw related discussion, so i have a challenge for all of you who are interested.

i am looking at sending an email to my mom who has been shunning me.

ppunk

Thank you all so much for your thoughtful responses to my query. It is very kind of you all to respond. Narkissos, PP, thank you for your thoughts, I hadn't considered 'relighting her programming' by using scriptures, I am sure you are probably correct. I am quite frightened of even talking to her as I have watched plain normal conversations degenerate into heated vitriolic spats when mine and her interpretations of the bible come into it, especially as JWs don't even acknowledge that there are other possible interpretations of scritpture. plm, yes, I was brought up a JW, baptised at 17, I left at 23, finally got around to DAing myself at age 25-26. I have successfully weeded out most of the JW thinking and scriptures, with much effort, which is why I seek advice from those who willingly keep a foot in their camp to help people like me. Personally, my brain doesnt cope well with thinking in their patterns and I end up with my brain twisted like a pretzel if I try to do it. lol. The ironic part of my situation is that after I hadn't had any contact with my family for 2+ years, I contacted them when I fell pregnant (not married), I then moved in and had my daughter while living there, with my mom and one of my brothers present at the birth (both active JWs). She continued to have the book study held at the house, even though it was obvious that I was "in sin" by my pregnant belly and lack of wedding ring or husband (or even boyfriend). However, after some time and many things happened, she moved interstate and I gradually got up the courage to discuss my sexuality with her, (thinking, hoping, believing that her love for me and my daughter would be enough to overcome the programmed response). I told her I was gay, and she was fine with that, but when she found out i was seeing someone, she shunned me. Another double twist is that at the time she decided to shun me, she was disfellowshipped herself for stealing a worldly man's husband and breaking up his marriage in order to be with him. (A giant in the land of hypocrites). Anyway, that is some of my story. Confession, thanks for the exerpt from ISOCF, I have read CoC by Ray Franz, it was very good. I think he is an excellent writer for people who have been heavily involved with JWs. one more point: Narkissos, yes, your analysis is correct. I wish to try to inspire her to start to listen to her heart and use it and it alone as her guide. I think the advise to avoid using any scriptures and your reasoning is spot on. many thanks to you all. ppunk.

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Needing help with some scriptures

by ppunk in

hi all, thanks for opening this thread.

i have heard this is the place to post for bona fide jw related discussion, so i have a challenge for all of you who are interested.

i am looking at sending an email to my mom who has been shunning me.

ppunk

Hi all, thanks for opening this thread. I have heard this is THE place to post for bona fide JW related discussion, so I have a challenge for all of you who are interested. I am looking at sending an email to my mom who has been shunning me. She recently sent me a letter asking if I would like to correspond by email with her. I have been struggling with some deep emotions the past week or two, too many to even describe, and I am still "in process". Anyway, last night something occured to me. While I know my mom has been shunning me because of her religious beliefs (eg she was told to shun me), I know her heart feels love for me and that to shun me has been hard on her. She and my family have totally missed out on me and my daughter in their lives. I feel as if her letter to me was her acting from her heart, her real feelings, as nothing has changed, and she should still be shunning me according to the WT. My challenge is this. I would like to send her an email encouraging her to continue to listen to her heart, that it can be trusted and is not "treacherous" for wanting to love her child and grandchild. I would like a scripture or two to go along with this, as I think it would have more impact that way. If anyone can think of some scriptures which would be useful in this situation, where the reader of the scripture is encouraged to use/listen to their heart etc, i would be very grateful. many thanks.