Paradise is going to suck!

by WasOnceBlind in

once you really start thinking about it, the whole paradise idea is kind of depressing.

i remember growing up as kids my sister was the first to tell my parents (admittedly very courageously) that she wasn't sure she wanted to live in paradise, it sounded boring living forever.

i thought she was dumb for thinking that, i mean playing with lions!!!!

Once you really start thinking about it, the whole paradise idea is kind of depressing. I remember growing up as kids my sister was the first to tell my parents (admittedly very courageously) that she wasn't sure she wanted to live in Paradise, it sounded boring living forever. I thought she was dumb for thinking that, I mean playing with lions!!!! Eventually thought I started thinking about it and I started to agree with her. Not only would it be boring, it would straight out be miserable. I mean think about it, with technology gone it would be a cycle of never ending manual labor. Building, farming, harvesting, making clothing from scratch, days to travel a couple hundred miles, etc. Then comes the emotional side of things that JW's never think about. For example, no one can really know who will be in paradise because only Jehovah really knows a person and only he will judge. So imagine a resurrected wife who died a loyal JW before her husband, eagerly awaiting to reunite, only to find out that he remarried after her death or that it turns out he wasn't loyal until the end. Now there she is all alone. Even worse, what if she had children and is eagerly awaiting to see them....except they all ended up not making it to paradise. Now she has no husband and no kids....but at least she will meet Moses -_-

Don't they ever stop to think about the reality of things and realize how silly this resurrecting in paradise idea is? I wouldn't want to be resurrected just to find out I'm all alone there.

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Anti-JW billboard going up in Texas

by sunny23 in

the first ever billboard has been crowd funded on reddit and will be going up.

i'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any jw's who already have questions or doubts and lead them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the wt and gb are not inspired or gods mouthpiece.

at the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the jw's who knock on their door: "so whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about i saw on the billboard down the road?

WasOnceBlind

I don't consider that a smear campaign. This is a real issue and real kids are at real risk here! I would want one here in California.

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Old Memories Revisited - or - How to Stop Worrying and Love WT Indoctrination

by undercover in

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i remember when i was a kid, how the importance of meeting attendance was continually drummed into our heads.

through the magazines, meetings, and especially traveling overseers, it was stressed that missing just one meeting was akin to allowing satan into our lives and would jeopardize our everlasting life in paradise earth.. one particular bit of 'advice' stood out, even to a small child: even if out of town relatives showed up on meeting day, you shouldn't let that cause you to miss a meeting.

i remember trying to play that out in mind... 'welcome, grandpa!

WasOnceBlind

Yeah that always bothered me, my parents are like that to this day. I remember one time one of my aunts came to visit from Mexico, she was on her way to Chicago (we live in Cailfornia) but decided to stop and spend a day with us and her brother who she hadn't seen in maybe 5+ years. Well it was a Sunday we had the noon meeting, my aunt wasn't exactly sure what time she would arrive since she was driving from San Diego but estimated to arrive at around noon or one. Well my parents just couldn't miss the meeting, they left a spare key for her under a mat. When we got home from meeting there was my aunt sitting alone in our living room. Pathetic. To this day, if you are there on meeting day they will ditch you to go to meeting.

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New Watchtower and Awake 11 pages of shallow articles...what happened!!!

by Witness 007 in

found the latest copies next to the toilet {witnesses must have visited my wife} and had a look after not reading anything for a year.

its a pamphlet not a magazine!

only a few pages long with shallow articles.it felt like my "spiritual food" was now those cheap home delivered diet t.v meals!!

WasOnceBlind

thedepressedsoul39 minutes agoThe whole JW religion has been dumbed down. Most can't/wont even put up a fight at the door or try and defend their beliefs.

It's true! I remember even back when I use to go door knocking (about 10 years ago), the instructions we would get if someone wanted actually discuss doctrine was to say goodbye because they were most likely "apostates". Always thought that was weird, I know realize the truth is that if we were to discuss doctrine it would have been us seeing TATT and not the other person joining us.

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Help prevent sons indoctrination.

by WasOnceBlind in

ok so here is the deal, as some of you who might have read my first post might remember, my parents are jw's while i myself have faded.

i have not told them that i don't believe in the borg and i have done my research and concluded it's a bunch of crap.

the main reason i haven't is because it would break my moms heart and probably send her into a deep depression (she suffers from depression).

WasOnceBlind

@Witness My Fury - No that will not work, like I mentioned, I don't wish to tell my parents I don't believe in that anymore. Telling them something like that would automatically make me an "Apostate".

@OneEyedJoe - My son does not accept things so easily. In fact I'm surprised by how he won't even believe stuff I tell him sometimes without scientific proof.

The reason for me wanting him to ask grandpa questions is that because no matter what answer he is given he will want proof, he won't take someones word for it. The more answers his grandpa gives him and then finds out they are BS the more likely he will be to just plainly start noticing it is BS.

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Help prevent sons indoctrination.

by WasOnceBlind in

ok so here is the deal, as some of you who might have read my first post might remember, my parents are jw's while i myself have faded.

i have not told them that i don't believe in the borg and i have done my research and concluded it's a bunch of crap.

the main reason i haven't is because it would break my moms heart and probably send her into a deep depression (she suffers from depression).

WasOnceBlind

Ok so here is the deal, as some of you who might have read my first post might remember, my parents are JW's while I myself have faded. I have not told them that I don't believe in the BORG and I have done my research and concluded it's a bunch of crap. The main reason I haven't is because it would break my moms heart and probably send her into a deep depression (she suffers from depression). The other is because my dad would probably disown me, I mean he disowned his own brother and would not speak to him even after not seeing him for a decade - yep cuz that is what Jesus would have done!

Anyways my mom babysits my son, she picks him up from school and keeps him for about 3 hrs while I get off work. Recently I got off early and went to pick him, when I got there I found my dad giving him and my niece bible study. Then another time I went to pick him up to find my dad making them watch those stupid Caleb cartoons. Now the other day my son started to tell me about how he learned about the great flood while doing bible study with grandpa. I kind of rolled my eyes and he saw me do it. He asked me, how come the lions didnt eat the other animals or the people. I told him that because supposedly animals didn't eat other back then. He is big on dinosaurs so he asked, "how is that possible if there were dinosaurs that were carnivores?' I told him, "excellent point son, you should ask grandpa and see what he tells you."

Any advice on quick questions I can have him "ask grandpa" to plant seeds of doubts in all the crap he is learning?

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Accidental Posting of 2015 Release on JW.ORG

by rosesinbloom in

a couple of weeks ago someone posted that jw.org accidentally posted the 2015 regional convention release.

i can not fine the thread now.. i saw a picture of it yesterday.

a sister had downloaded the pdf and read it that night.. it is a 16-page brochure entitled "return to jehovah", with a purple background.. it has been designed specifically for inactive ones are those who have been raised around the truth but never baptized.

WasOnceBlind

Great.....another awkward conversation to look forward to with my Dad.....

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Got invited to Sundays pep rally

by WasOnceBlind in

so my mom who sadly is still in the "truth" asked me if i was going to the circuit assembly this sunday.

she knows i don't go to meetings anymore but usually when she would mention the assemblies i would say yes and go pretty much just for her sake.

however, this time i couldn't bring my self to saying yes, i've been reading "crisis of conscience" and i just can't bring my self to go anymore, even if it's for my mother.

WasOnceBlind

Ended up not going. My mom asked me Saturday night if I was going, I told her I didn't know. I ended up not going and taking the family to a baseball game instead. Unfortunately my mom watches my son for me (picks him up from school) so I will go and have to pick him up and be interrogated by my dad as to why I didn't go.

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Questions that were never answered for me

by WasOnceBlind in

i have always been a very rational and thoughtful person.

there where always questions i had growing up regarding things i was taught.

of course asking questions while being a jw is a big no no!

WasOnceBlind

Oubliette20 minutes agoWOB: Why are we not allowed to have beards?
Here's a thread on that you might like from one of my favorite posters:
BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them

Oh, yeah I now know why. These are just examples of questions that weren't answered for me when I was in the "truth." All those questions and more I have found answers for.

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Questions that were never answered for me

by WasOnceBlind in

i have always been a very rational and thoughtful person.

there where always questions i had growing up regarding things i was taught.

of course asking questions while being a jw is a big no no!

WasOnceBlind

I have always been a very rational and thoughtful person. There where always questions I had growing up regarding things I was taught. Of course asking questions while being a JW is a big NO NO! I thought I would post some up:

Why are we not allowed to have beards?

Why no tattoos is mosaic law is over?

If god is love, why does he allow so much suffering? From what I remember their main answer was that it started in Eden when Satan challenged Gods right to rule. However, I refuse to believe that a God of Love would let billions thru history suffer and die just to prove a point!

Why no birthdays? (their explanations are super shaky)

Is earth is 6k years old, whats up with Dinosaurs? Cavemen?

I had many more, these are just some that come to mind.

WasOnceBlind

Posts by WasOnceBlind

Oh, yeah I now know why. These are just examples of questions that weren't answered for me when I was in the "truth." All those questions and more I have found answers for.