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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

Funky betrays his own atheistic worldview with

To you maybe. To me, it's a time to give and receive presents, eat drink and be merry. Why? Because everyone else is doing it and it's fun. With about eight hours of daylight at this time of year, celebrating the rebirth of the sun seems like a great idea. As an end-of-year celebration it's also a good time to catch up with old friends and family and to have one last blowout before the New Year's Resolutions kick in!

Pragmatism is the best you can do. You wouldnt receive any presents to enjoy your Pints in a special festive sort of way if it was not for the Christian Church and Christian Theism. What you reject and what you despise is gives the occasion for presents and special bottles of Ale that we all enjoy. When you enjoy your gifts and down you Pints you are basically giving the middle finger to your atheistic world view. If I was a true and consistent atheist, which you are not, I would call you a sell out for celebrating Christmas.

Maybe consistency is the problem, maybe atheism can't give an account for consistency since the atheistic world view is so internally inconsistent. Maybe that is why atheist are so woefully inconsistent when they borrow capitol from the Theistic Christian World View and Celebrate Christmas

Funky asks,

Clash, I think part of your problem seems to be that you genuinely can't believe people are really atheists.

Not quite I can't believe that people would be dooped by such an unintelligible religious notion such as atheism, a world view that time and time again proves itself to be internally inconsistent and self-refuting. Atheism is not for the intelligent, its a lazy philosophical and religious system for those who are bitter and angry with God for some inane reason. It is a system that doopes it's victims into thinking that they are wise when atheism presents itself as a paper tiger that is easily crumbled at the slightest of rigorous cross examination. Yet in the end atheism leaves its adherence to the folly of the vanity of their own darken ignorant minds.

cheers,

jr

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

What you just wrote is a great example of linear thinking. Have you thought about returning to be a dub?

But so far you have not provided the necessary preconditions of intellegability to validate any of your claims. Question: Linear thinking as compared to what?

Scully,

Speaking of I always wanted to Go to Alaska and check out the Aurora Borealis?(sp)

Aztec writes:

Very little to none of what most people celebrate on "Christmas" day are derivitaves of Christianity.

Good point Aztect. That is because most people who celebrate Christianity are in fact not christians like the atheist I am currently pointing out.

From the wreaths to the trees to mistletoe to exchanging gifts: it's all pagan. Just cause someone slapped the name of Christ on it doesn't make it Christian.

Again these are carryovers from pagan tradition but they have no sagnifigance there not use as instraments of worship there just silly decorations. Let me give you an example of what I mean. I have a poster from the 70's punk band The Damned, it is just a decoration it is not an instrament of worship. Just like wrieths and missletoe and other junk that creeps up on Christmas

cheers,

jr

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

Aztec, You miss the point,

The thread deals with Atheist (deny the belief in God, even any God of some sort) Pagans (believe is some sort of god or deity out their even if it is some made up mystery out in space like the Aztec gods of Mexico)

Second Christmas is different that the pagan special secular day of Winter Solstice. Let me explain Winter Solstice is about worshiping the creation like Douglas Fur pine trees or toads out in the local creek and getting high on some mind blowing narcotics or what ever pagans do on winter solstice day.

Christmas is about worshiping the Creator Jesus Christ who came into the world hence all those cool little melodies about Jesus like "The First Noel" or "Go Tell it on the Mountain" or "Emanuel you here this time. The Christmas tree is a carryover tradition from the pagans but un like you guys we dont worship trees it's just a decoration Like the head of an 8 point buck I shot in El Dorado County two years ago,

Cheers

jr

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

Great point Aztec,

But then they shouldnt call it Christmas, they should call it National run up your Mastercharge day..... But yet that is a by-product that has attached itself to Christmas but is not really part of the intention of Christmas.

The cool stuff you enjoy on Dec 25 comes from a world View you deny but yet invalidate your own objections to this Christian world view even worse reduce your anti Christian objections to meaninglessness and pointless drivel when you enjoy the fruits of and borrow from the very world view you deny. That is when you celebrate Christmas you demonstrate that your objections to Christian Theism are invalid and pointless by your participation in this Christmas activity fueled by the Christian World view.

BTW it is this world view that judges you.

Just a thought,

jr

Cute Sirona

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

Speaking of Christmas Donkey speaks:

I don't celebrate it. It has pagan origins.

That maybe so but to what extent is debatable. The point is that Christmas has a Christian intention and thus is full of Christian Thiesm.

Yet what puzzels me is that those athiest who deny God suspend thier futile campain against the One and Only Holy and Almighty Creator every December and get really geeked up over and cellebrate Christmans, a birth of the God/Man Jesus Christ. Athieist cellabrate the birth of a King, a Savior who on judgment day is not going to save the athiests who deny the truth of his exestance. Yet, they (these atheist) cellebrate Christmas.

Maybe sentamentalism is stronger than athiestistic dogma.

Go Raiders,

jr

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

Yes Sirona and Aztec,

You gals are pagans and hold to some mystical deity somewhere out there in outer space where ever this deity of yours is and thus removes you from the camp of atheism which you deny. I do thank you for your Participation

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

Ex Pat Brit,

If you where really consistant then you would'nt call it Christmas, more like Winter solstis. But I suspect you really get into Christmas spirit when your singing songs about Jesus this time of year, Like Charles Westley's "Hark the Harold Sings" Set to Mendelssohn's tune. Hmmmm your singing christian tunes.... not bad for an athiest.

So go ahaed expat and sing that Handel's Messiah during this time of year and deny in a practical way and scoff Athiesm.

Christmas, the goodies you enjoy from a Christian world view.

It could be worse you could be a JW, Islam or Athiest and live in misery with no Christmas

Ho Ho Hooo Mary Christmas

Gloria in Excelsis Deo,

jr

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Religion is good for you!! Really!!

by Soledad in

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp?name=religious_people/religious_people

do religious people really live longer?the answer seems to be a resounding yes, if you believe 42 scientific studies that examined the link between religious involvement and mortality that were reviewed by the national institute for healthcare research in rockville, maryland.

the statistic: the people who were most involved in their religions were 29 percent more likely to be alive when the various studies were completed than were their nonreligious counterparts, reports webmd.. why?

clash_city_rockers

SYN,

How can you give an account for Jesus' words when he says in John 14:6

I am the only way truth and life, there are no other ways to the Father but by Me.

If Jesus' words is so then Buddist, Mormons, JWs. Hindus, Islam and every ism schism and spazam outside the biblical Gospel of God's Grace in Jesus Christ is going to hell.

These are not my words Read John 14:6

John 14:6

6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

Ah... The athiest can only supply pragmatism for this defence for celabrating Christmas. Christmas violates athiesm!

Even Donky has to capitulate to the truth of Christian thiesm when he celebrated christmas. I guess these people don't think athiesm is true after all.

From Donkey's post whe get this triumph endorsment of Christianity

But when I am decorating my Christmas tree, and listening to, say, Bach's Christmas Oratorio,

Yes the great Lutherean Bach and his masterful Christ Centered Christmas Onatorio that Donky loves so much. Bach great Protestant musical arts from the Lutherean side.

Yes Donkey it is great to see you forfit your athiestic beliefs and flush them down the toilet on the practical level when you borrow from the Christian world view and celebrate Christmans. Why should we believe and practice athiesm, you don't Donkey you celebrate Christmas. I would encourage you to check out a BIBLE believing Presbyterean church or a calvinistic Baptist church.

,

jr

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Athiests and Christmas?

by clash_city_rockers in

i was just thinking.

since christmas is about the birth of christ, i know dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late sept or early oct. i guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and world series, just kidding.

it was the early christian church that appointed dec 25th.

clash_city_rockers

I was just thinking. Since Christmas is about the birth of Christ, I know Dec 25 was not his birthday, probly born around late Sept or early Oct. I guess he wanted to be born right before the baseball playoffs and World Series, just kidding.

It was the early Christian church that appointed Dec 25th. Anyways is their any atheist out there that celebrates Christmas? Is it not a contradiction of your Dogmatic Atheism, since the intention of Christmas has to do with God and Jesus Christ? When you celebrate Christmas, are you not borrowing capitol from those Theistic Christians? Is not celebrating Christmas a dialectical tension to your atheistic worldview. Is not celebrating the 1st coming of God the son in human flesh inconsistent with your atheistic dogma? Or do you athiest refuse to celebrate Christmas just like the JWs refuse to celebrate Christmas??????????????

I would like to get your input

Smiles,

jr

Edited by - clash_city_rockers on 16 December 2002 4:38:59

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