Posts by tim3l0rd

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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing

by wannaexit in

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i've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.

seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.

they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.

tim3l0rd

The passive policy Watchtower touts 'it is each members absolute right to report...' blah, blah, blah betrays something more sinister given the ease of an active policy that 'we encourage victims of child molestation to report their victimization to local authorities...'

Even if they changed it to say that elders should inform the parents and/or victim of their right to report the abuse, that would have a HUGE impact. This would change many JWs attitude toward reporting the crime and of those who choose to report the crime.

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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing

by wannaexit in

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friends

i've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.

seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.

they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.

tim3l0rd

When I read the part of the RC findings commenting on the biblical basis for some of their beliefs I thought immediately "that is something the WTS will pick up on"

Since their policies are loosely based on the bible, I think the ARC was trying to show them (and the world) that there is a biblical basis for adjusting policy. If they solely focused on policy, the JW response would have been that they follow the bible, that their policies are bible based, and that freedom of religion allows them to establish policies as they see fit. Of course they can come back that their interpretation is correct. All religions would. The ARC has demonstrated that the WT is unwilling to change even when there is ambiguity.

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Happy Thanks Giving From The Governing Boobs

by Watchtower-Free in

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tim3l0rd

Too funny. I think Splane should be the one saying "Redefinition" and TMIII saying "Ad Hominem".

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Remember that WT masturbation video? Who is the sign language person?

by FatFreek 2005 in

below are a few screen captures from the video to serve as a reminder of what he looks like.

below those will be a few captures from a weather forecaster now at our kark tv (arkansas).

his name is matt peterson.

tim3l0rd

OK, guys, i just watched the video, lol. WTF was that? First of all, can someone PLEASE tell me, is this an ACTUAL Watchtower video? Or is this a joke? Or did someone compile a bunch of clips together? What is/was the purpose of the video? If it IS aWatchtower video, does anybody know what they are saying, or what the point is of it? Lol, i appreciate it.

It is an actual WT video. It was the ASL translation of the WT study article. The WT study article in English was very explicit. In ASL, things are very literal so the translation of that article looks disturbing to those that are not in ASL. To be fair, the ASL translation of that article was no more disturbing to a deaf person than the English or other spoken language article was to a hearing person.

To those who are unfamiliar with ASL, the gestures appear crude but they are a part of the ASL vocabulary. I'm not sticking up for the org for publishing that article. They probably shouldn't have published it in any language.

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Director of XYZ Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, Inc.

by cognisonance in

i googled my childhood best friend that i grew up with in the cult.

he's my age and has shunned me for the past 4 years despite my efforts to reach out to him.today, i noticed a listing online that states he is a director of his congregation.

i suppose only elders can fill this position (he wasn't an elder when i was a jw).

tim3l0rd

Each congregation is usually setup as a corporation as well. Some of the elders will hold titles in the corporation in order to transact business (pay bills, setup bank account, apply for tax-free status, etc.)

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heart troubles

by zeb in

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friends

dear all,.

my health took a beating over the years with stress from various sources, not a little from the wt; and dangerous areas of work involving fumes and so on.

the arc also took its toll and i have had recently a heart attack.

tim3l0rd

Well wishes for you. I hope you recover.

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Jehovah's Witnesses May Have Peaked in Membership at 8 Million (+/-)

by OnTheWayOut in

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i don't have all the details of their new "service year" numbers, but i have read enough on jwn to state my opinion pretty strongly.. memorial attendance for 2015 was down.while they kept saying they were going to build a bunch of new kingdom halls, and everybody is still in recovery from watchtower taking all the local money away, they say pretty much that there isn't enough money to build new kingdom halls.putting gb members on the videos at jw .

org has allowed people to really put a face and personality to these guys and remove the mystery of how they should be such deeply spiritual serious men.

instead they see silly thoughts about tight pants and, really everything that comes out of lett's mouth is delivered ultra-goofy, along with the money reports.. the gb lost credibility a little more with every new light that shone down, with the strangest one being "overlapping generation.

tim3l0rd

Looking at the trend from the 70s to 80s, they had a dip after the '75 debacle but recovered very well by pushing the idea that the end was close because of the understanding that the generation of 1914 would not pass away and a generation was 70 - 80 years. I don't see them recovering the same way they did in the 80s. They would have to come up with some clear idea that the end was within the next 10 - 20 years in order to work JWs into a frenzy. The only thing that may work is if they start pushing the idea that Noah preached for 120 years and 120 years from 1914 is 2034.

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70 inch t.v.'s on stage

by dbq407 in

so the other night we had a resolution to purchase two 70 inch t.v.

's to hang on either side of the stage.

and also a smaller t.v.

tim3l0rd

Maybe they wanted to use the money they had sitting in the congregation account before "Mother" took it?

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Correlation decline JW numbers and JW broadcasting?

by Gorbatchov in

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i read some impressive figures here about the decline of the jw numbers in 2015.. could there be a correlation between this decline and the start of jw broadcasting?.

hence, that there would be an negative impact because the gb is standing so nearby, you can experience the idiot reasoning of their doctrines sitting in your own living room?.

the lett effect?

tim3l0rd

Unfortunately, my family seems to love the broadcasts. The last one that plead for exJWs to "come back to Jehovah" had my mom in tears because she wants my brother to come back (she doesn't know that I'm fading yet). The emotional pleas on the broadcasts are strong for those that are still plugged in.

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Massive Destruction of Judicial Files Ordered by By Servce Department?

by Room 215 in

over on the silentlambs facebook site is a copy of a document that purports to be an order by the service depart to destroy files relating to child molestation cases: https://www.facebook.com/silentlambs/photos/a.571978169529812.1073741826.144752662252367/970409503020008/?type=3&theater.

have any of you seen this?

is this a real document or bogus?.

tim3l0rd

My understanding is that this is nothing new. They have always been told to destroy personal notes. I think there have been previous audit checklists in years past. It's not ethical to destroy notes on crimes, but they have never been big on helping out the police. During the ARC the elders admitted to destroying notes so that their spouses wouldn't find them. It's been a common practice for decades.