Posts by tim3l0rd

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Why is the Governing Body pushing the very young(5-12 year old) into getting baptized into subservience to the Corporation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think a very simple reason may be because the very young are pretty much the only ones naive enough to take the plunge these days.

with the internet available to inform people about the deceptive lies printed by the wt corporation it seems that they are getting their member from the less informed population like the elderly and the very young.

they/gb hate higher education because they loose members who get one and so they are focusing on those that are dumb enough to believe their boogie man bull shit about jehovah choosing their corporation and anybody not a part of it he will destroyed at armageddon.. also we need to consider that they view these young people as a potential free labor source so the sooner you get them hooked into baptism with the threat of disfellowshipping you can get more free labor out of them..

tim3l0rd

I was saddened recently when we had my wife's niece stay with us for 3 weeks. She was recently baptized and was pioneering that month. She told me that she hated preaching but needed to keep doing it until she liked it. Every time I would do or say something that was not quite JW, she would say, "Jesus is disappointed in you." I know she was joking but I could see the cult persona kick in.

She's home schooled so she has no connection to anyone who is not a JW. Of course, JW literature is heavily used in her schooling. I'm hoping that I can stay in long enough to help her get out. She's a very smart girl and doesn't deserve to be stunted by this religion. It'll help if my wife wakes up and joins me in this quest.

She usually spends several weeks a year with us, so I/we may be able to get her to think outside of JW teachings.

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Crisis Of Conscience In Audio Format?

by dubstepped in

i'm just wondering if the book is available to be listened to in any format?

i know that it can be found online and read freely, and i've been through some of it, but i just wondered if it was available in any other way.

i guess it would be lacking some of the copies of articles and such that were in the original book, but it would still be interesting.

tim3l0rd

Does anyone know where the pdf formatt is, I have tried to buy it but amazon want to charge hundreds of dollars if u live in the uk!!!

PM'd you the link.

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Crisis Of Conscience In Audio Format?

by dubstepped in

i'm just wondering if the book is available to be listened to in any format?

i know that it can be found online and read freely, and i've been through some of it, but i just wondered if it was available in any other way.

i guess it would be lacking some of the copies of articles and such that were in the original book, but it would still be interesting.

tim3l0rd

Here's the link. It looks like all the files uploaded correctly.

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Where Is The Jehovah's Witness Zeal?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it seems to me that the religion is nearly dead.

or dying.

very little pulse exists for the organization.

tim3l0rd

It seems most people are very active on these sites shortly after waking up, but eventually move on. I'm sure I will move on too at some point. For now at least I feel a sense of comradery here that I don't get at the meetings anymore.

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Crisis Of Conscience In Audio Format?

by dubstepped in

i'm just wondering if the book is available to be listened to in any format?

i know that it can be found online and read freely, and i've been through some of it, but i just wondered if it was available in any other way.

i guess it would be lacking some of the copies of articles and such that were in the original book, but it would still be interesting.

tim3l0rd

Almost done. I'll share when it is finished.

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Crisis Of Conscience In Audio Format?

by dubstepped in

i'm just wondering if the book is available to be listened to in any format?

i know that it can be found online and read freely, and i've been through some of it, but i just wondered if it was available in any other way.

i guess it would be lacking some of the copies of articles and such that were in the original book, but it would still be interesting.

tim3l0rd

I'm using vidtomp3. So far it is converting each one just fine. Just make sure to uncheck the box that says something about using a download accelerator when you get to the download page. I only had to uncheck it on the first conversion. I'm up to chapter 6 and it has converted each one without an issue so far.

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Need to Vent: Well this weekend is a wash, 3 days of my life i will not get back and wife is slipping in to cult mode

by goingthruthemotions in

yep, the cult fest is upon us....3 days of my life i will not get back....ughhhhhhhh.

and my wife has been slipping in to cult mode the last 2 days.....you know the look.

almost like a glazed over look with a side of guilt and a side of narrow mindedness.

tim3l0rd

Probably too late now, but have you seen the info on how to setup a PirateBox? I plan on doing this at my convention to see how many may connect to me and download apostate literature. Otherwise, you can play convention bingo.

I've found that asking questions in a sincere manner has helped my wife to think about the doctrines. I never attack them, but pose questions that I sincerely have. I do this a little at a time. Usually I pose them as coming from my brother (who isn't a JW). I'd use a coworker, but I work from home so I have little contact with them.

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What are the current rules about vaping from the GB?

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

i mean e cigs and vaping.

not even tobacco inhaling but inhaling other stuff like herbs etc.

is this allowed?

tim3l0rd

The correlation to spiritism blows me away. I was not taught this growing up, but discovered it later. I was taught, like most other JWs, that smoking was banned because we should be physically clean.

I like how some very addictive rx drugs are ok because a doctor signed off on it. Or how the drug alcohol is ok, because Jesus drank it. If only there was an account of him smoking weed.

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Crisis Of Conscience In Audio Format?

by dubstepped in

i'm just wondering if the book is available to be listened to in any format?

i know that it can be found online and read freely, and i've been through some of it, but i just wondered if it was available in any other way.

i guess it would be lacking some of the copies of articles and such that were in the original book, but it would still be interesting.

tim3l0rd

youtube-mp3.org has a limitation of converting videos that are 20 min or less. It won't convert most of the videos becaus of their length.

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Where Is The Jehovah's Witness Zeal?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it seems to me that the religion is nearly dead.

or dying.

very little pulse exists for the organization.

tim3l0rd

All the "growth" is in the foreign language congregations. The zealous JWs moved to those congregations a long time ago. It's not uncommon for 50% or more of a foreign language congregation to be pioneers. My guess is that when the zealous ones left to "expand their ministry" the result was that the English congregations were left with those who are in mainly because of family or because it's what they are used to.

It is a tired religion. I'm tired of hearing the end is soon. I'm tired of being beaten with guilt. I'm tired of having to re-learn "The Truth" every decade. I'm tired of the double standards for elders vs the rest of the congregation. I'm tired of hearing from pioneers and other full time servants how Jehovah provides for them while they take handouts and gifts from those who work in the real world and give in order to assuage some of the guilt for not being a full time servant themselves.

I could go on, but you get my drift. :)