All the ways that the org now dips into JWs pockets is very similar to how governments tax people. Take a little bit from a thousand different places and people don't notice or complain as much as they would if it was one big tax. JWs are putting money out to the local congregation, circuit assembly, regional assembly, directly to the worldwide work, directly to the org for disasters, and willed directly to the org. In the past, the local and circuit would have been used only for local needs (put back into use for the local members), but now the org has its hands in those funds as well. The pubs don't even realize how much of their contributions are now sent back to "mother".
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2015 November 19, BOE! Circuit Account Balances!
by Atlantis indelete if already posted.. .
2015-november 19, boe.
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2015 November 19, BOE! Circuit Account Balances!
by Atlantis indelete if already posted.. .
2015-november 19, boe.
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tim3l0rd
Wow. This is going to raise a few eyebrows!
Doubt it. They are already being instructed to send excess money from congregation accounts. This is the same thing, but on a circuit level. 99% of elders will just accept it (if they even listen at the business meeting) and move on. When the announcement is read at the assembly, most pubs won't put 2 and 2 together either. The pubs also won't realize that this was direction from the org and will think that the elders did this themselves.
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2015 November 19, BOE! Circuit Account Balances!
by Atlantis indelete if already posted.. .
2015-november 19, boe.
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Which Spiritual belief system or non belief system is right for you?
by Giordano inwe have done this before but we have a fair number of newbie's on this site and some are struggling with the question about other belief systems and non belief.
where are you now in your own mind?
here's a quiz http://www.selectsmart.com/nontheism/ that is pretty accurate, at least in my case as to where i am at this point in my life.
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Two Year Delay in Building New KHs - What Is the Real Impact?
by committeechairman inwhere are all these kingdom halls that were going to start being built?
the rbc arrangement was officially announced as an arrangement that was ending in the united states branch territory in a letter on january 24, 2014 (although this letter is no longer listed on jw.org).
this means that 23 months have passed since the announcement of the ldc taking over and "acceleration" of kingdom hall builds.. what has happened in the meantime with kh construction?
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I keep hearing that they are gearing up for a large push on KHs. They've started a few in the US in densely populated areas. It would make sense that they start a few to get the rhythm and work the kinks out. Once they've got a template, they can start replicating that across the US. It's taking them a long time, but it is a big change. They're going from a hybrid residential model to a commercial model.
Unless they want mass defections, I think they have to kick the KH building in the US into high gear within the next year. The sales from the recent buildings they listed should give them the cash needed to start a large number of KHs.
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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing
by wannaexit ini've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.
seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.
they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.
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tim3l0rd
I've actually been told by a JW that Jehovah is allowing these things to occur the same way he allowed Saul to continue despite him no longer being anointed. Jehovah is "allowing" JW's loyalty to be tested. -
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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing
by wannaexit ini've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.
seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.
they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.
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tim3l0rd
Even if they changed it to say that elders should inform the parents and/or victim of their right to report the abuse, that would have a HUGE impact. This would change many JWs attitude toward reporting the crime and of those who choose to report the crime.
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What you suggest is already Watchtower policy.
It's not. They only say that the elders are not to discourage them from going to the police. There is no mandate for the elders to even inform the parents or abused of their right to go to the police.
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Impact of the Royal Commission of Inquiry on JW policies and procedures
by steve2 inthe royal commission is not yet over.
the summary of findings on jws is not the end of the story.
the legal process is unfolding and the only open question is the extent to which jw organization in australia will be legally mandated to change its policies and procedures on child sexual abuse.. (on the question of shunning those who leave, the commission is well intended but has strayed beyond its legal brief.
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They'll only change once it affects their bottom line. They've proven that over and over (the 2012 letter to the BoE is an example). I can't wait for the commission to wrap up and force change through monetary measures. -
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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing
by wannaexit ini've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.
seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.
they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.
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tim3l0rd
The passive policy Watchtower touts 'it is each members absolute right to report...' blah, blah, blah betrays something more sinister given the ease of an active policy that 'we encourage victims of child molestation to report their victimization to local authorities...'
Even if they changed it to say that elders should inform the parents and/or victim of their right to report the abuse, that would have a HUGE impact. This would change many JWs attitude toward reporting the crime and of those who choose to report the crime.
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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing
by wannaexit ini've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.
seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.
they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.
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tim3l0rd
When I read the part of the RC findings commenting on the biblical basis for some of their beliefs I thought immediately "that is something the WTS will pick up on"
Since their policies are loosely based on the bible, I think the ARC was trying to show them (and the world) that there is a biblical basis for adjusting policy. If they solely focused on policy, the JW response would have been that they follow the bible, that their policies are bible based, and that freedom of religion allows them to establish policies as they see fit. Of course they can come back that their interpretation is correct. All religions would. The ARC has demonstrated that the WT is unwilling to change even when there is ambiguity.