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  I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans

  by Unlearn in

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  i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.

  it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.

  more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.

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  Spectre

  Welcome! I'm so glad that your wife is out also (lots of sad stories around here when only one leaves).

  So tell me, what was the straw that broke the camels back? What one thing made you say , "enough!"?
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  Victoria, Australia: WTBTS and GB of JWs have shown themselves to be "GUILTY" respecting previous noncompliance with “Working With Children” Laws

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the watch tower society, the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, the faithful and discreet slave, and the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, last week issued a "special" letter to all bodies of elders in the state of victoria instructing them to immediately apply for their working with children licenses and to comply with child protection laws.

  the letter includes instructions that the contents are not to be made public or shared with members of the congregation.. .

  this means an investigation authorized by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and initiated by lawyers representing the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc. have concluded that the victorian working with children act 2005 and the associated child protection laws do indeed apply to all elders serving in congregations throughout the state of victoria both in the public ministry and in their internal ministry, which includes the theocratic ministry school.. .

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  Spectre

  I got a bit of a chuckle at the amount of the fine.
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  Encouraging sigleness

  by Dudu in

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  do you think is one of the unhealthy teachings among the wt?

  i mean humans has been created with emotional and physical needs that relationships provide, right?.

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  Spectre

  Like EmptyInside, little bit of a sore spot. I'm sure my dead mom would be so proud that I'm still single at 45(that doesn't sound all Norman Bates, does it?). Getting married was always seen as a last resort. Like you were a failure if you succombed to the temptation of wanting to be with someone.
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  Do you sense that the Watchtower will implode?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. beliefs

  since leaving the organization 8 years ago, there have been more significant changes in the actual, physical activities of the organization than occurred in all the 40 plus years i was 'in'.

  bethel closings.

  bethel layoffs.

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  Spectre

  This morning I was thinking that if I was still in it would raise warning flags about how much they are in the zone of, "those apostates are really bad! And we mean really really bad!!! No joking around here, REALLY REALLY BAD!!!!" I think this would either a)bore people to death into leaving because of the repetition or b)cause people to say, "really? you protest a bit too much."
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  Nov.15th WT - Quotes Dissing - Internet, Higher Education, Earning a Living

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  as most of us here are aware the wt society is using the " kool-aid " , or witness only version as i call it - to indoctrinate and intimidate jw members through fear and guilt to avoid anything that takes their devotion and attention away from allegiance to the wt society's ambitions.

  so the wt society is amping up it's control methods once again in various articles in this issue as well.. first off - notice this quote from page 14 , paragraph 16 , regarding how " dangerous " allegedly the internet is.

  it states, " these desires ( of the world ) involve such things as promiscuity, prominence , and possessions.

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  Spectre

  Wow! Someone had to write that crap!
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  New To Wine - Looking for Suggestions

  by HintOfLime in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  usually, in the evenings i like to relax, watch a movie or a comple tv shows, and sip on some vodka.. lately, however, i've gotten into reading again - and vodka just isn't the right drink.

  the characters in the books are often read of drinking this wine or that - which has given me a bit of a craving for a good red wine.

  something relaxing, and easy enough that it doesn't get you buzzed after a few sips (inhibiting my ability to read, etc.).

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  Spectre

  2 wines I like a lot: Toad Hollow Red. I think it's their Paso Robles house blend red. Edmeades Zin. Next time I make it down to California there are a couple other wineries that I will probably buy cases of their wine.
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  After leaving the Faith, do you celebrate all of the Holidays?

  by Quarterback in

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  i could never understand how some who don't follow some of the moral restrictions in the jw faith, are strong against celebrating the .

  religious holidays such as christmas, and easter etc.. do you celebrate the holidays knowing some of their origins?.

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  Spectre

  Not really. I have no one to celebrate them with so no point.
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  All of you should start a splinter JW group..

  by fortbethel in

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  2. humour

  forgive me if this comes off as harsh,.

  i've read & read many posts here mostly very negative.

  alot of you have family that have shunned & continue to shun.

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  Spectre

  Good idea! I'll start one. It's going to be called Iehovah's Observers. Because in the Latin alphabet, Jehovah starts with an I.
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  Do I just have a dirty, filthy, perverted apostate mind...

  by serenitynow! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ...or does the picture on page 30 of the december 2011 awake look like the beginning of a certain act?

  i mean that sword is at waist level, the shaft is long (:-d) and there is a little round dealy on the end.

  the male in the submissive position has got his mouth open, the dominant male is looking like "oh yeah, get ready.

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  A)What crappy art. B) Bwahahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!
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  So why

  by bushido8000 in

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  2. experiences

  it has become very apparent to me very quickly that this forum is dominated by ex-jws.

  i have many questions and topics to present but i first want to know who i am presenting these questions and topics to so i have 2 questions that i would like as many of yall to answer as possible.. .

  question 1: did you leave the organization out of the blue or were you first disfellowshipped?.

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  Spectre

  I was one of those that drifted away. Got more and more depressed with it, knew I could never live up to the standards they set(meaning that I felt SOOOOO guilty for not being the completely over zealous OCD type that I thought I should have been). When I finally made the decision to leave I still fully believed it but had to get away or I would have killed myself. I knew I was going to die at Armageddon within a few years(this was 1994)but I had to get out. To this day I still find out things about my upbringing and how it has affected my whole life that make me say, "Wow! now that was f^(%ed up!"