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  David Bowie

  by smiddy in

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  i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .

  rip d,b, .

  smiddy .

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  Spectre

  I have had Blackstar (the album) on repeat since Friday. What a masterpiece.

  I love the meme I saw that basically said: The earth in 4.5 billions years old. Be glad that you can say lived at the same time as Bowie.
  
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  Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

  by Witness 007 in

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  witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

  -they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

  not all of them were of gigantic size.

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  Spectre

  I wonder if seeing the movie Jurassic park woke anyone up. They might of happened to watch that, did some research and found the idea that the universe is 49,000 years old or so to be ludicrous.

  Not to derail the topic, but has anyone seen if or how they explain new stars being formed now? Those darn scientists throwing a wrench in the works and showing how god isn't done with the "creative days".
  
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  How did you feel when you found out "the truth about the truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.

  the un membership.

  the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.

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  Spectre

  Like Londo, I felt relief.

  I had already left and hadn't been to a meeting for many years before I stumbled upon this site and eventually read COC. Eventually the relief turned to being pissed off since over the years I've seen how being raised in the cult has affected me. But oh well, at least I'm out now and not wasting my time with meetings and field service.
  
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  November Study WT "Train You Child to Love Going Door 2 Door"

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. beliefs

  been catching up on some jw reading and found a gem in the november study wt in the first article, paragraph #11:.

  yet, you might look beyond the obvious and ask yourself, does my child enjoy the ministry or only the breaks?

  if you discern that the ministry could be more interesting or more rewarding for your children, set goals with them.

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  Spectre

  Puke worthy.

  Reminds me of Terry's post a while ago about how they are amateur theologians. Off in their own world thinking they have some idea that they know what they are talking about.
  
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  The lord of the rings

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. entertainment

  now that i've found out ttatt i've been indulging in a lot of so called "spiritistic" entertainment lol.

  i recently watched all of the lotr/hobitt movies and man were they awesome!!!

  who knew spiritism could be so much fun lol.

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  Nicolaou- I watched Dark Water last night. Thanks for the recommendation. Fun movie.

  I'm looking forward to the new series Lucifer. Based on a DC Vertigo comic book. I'm hoping it's better than Constantine. That series had my hopes up when it started, (especially in the first episode when they showed my Dr. Fate's helmet, one of my favorite comic book characters) but sadly didn't seem to keep the momentum.
  
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  Noah's Ark

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i'm reading the book "the atheist book of bible stories" and something just occurred to me.. noahs ark rested on the top of mount ararat.

  how the hell did all the land animals, dinosaurs and other monsters get to ground level?

  did noah and his family just push them off the mountain and hope for the best?

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  Spectre

  I'm just going to continue knitting my shawl and look over my glasses condescendingly and shake my head at you all not accepting one of gods great miracles.
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  If I've been testy lately, here's why.

  by cappytan in

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  2. friends

  my parents are visiting for not-thanksgiving.

  dad started bringing up spiritual stuff and i almost screwed up my fade.. it's so hard to have a genuine discussion about the issues in the organization when you have become an atheist.

  it feels icky and disgusting to have to pretend and nod your head at such platitudes as "you just need to have faith"..."trust in jehovah"..."jehovah will correct it"..."remember ray franz?

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  Spectre

  Must be maddening.

  How does he think that jehovah took care of Ray and what was corrected?
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  Cracked under pressure

  by breezy in

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  a big problem i have always had when talking about anything related to jw teachings, is that i get aggravated and frustrated when logical black and white concepts/scriptures are not seen/interpreted in a logical way.

  it really frustrates me having to hear '' oh no this does not apply here '' in every scripture that i bring to my parents attention.

  starting from when i was 16 to about 20, my frustrations would lead to these anger fits.

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  Spectre

  Have you looked into maybe taking a critical thinking class? Identifying logical flaws helps. Of course it sounds like it might go over your folks heads but for your own sake it might help.
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  Did I imagine a brief thaw in the Watchtower injunction against going to university?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay i was talking to an elder and he said me going to university was a bad idea and i should have listened to the society and not gone.

  but i said that when i went to university the watchtower was saying it might not be a bad idea to go to, as long as you do it for the "right reasons", don't associate with worldly people, and keep clear of "damaging ideas".

  but basically they said it was okay, in this "changing world" and job market to go to university.

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  Spectre

  They never ease up on anything.

  If it appears that they are on any subject matter its so they can use it in a court case to say, "But look, we said this here, so we aren't insane."

  Whether it be for blood, child custody cases, education or a number of other things, everyone in the hall knows the real score.

  .....and I know saying that I come off as some conspiracy theory nut. But it isn't hard to find them saying the complete opposite a few weeks later.
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  Are JWs trying to make dysfunctional kids and destroy their ability to live normal lives?

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?

  because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.

  fear of demons (fear, misfit).

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  Spectre

  I'm surprised I've never seen this thread before. Great OP and posts.

  Someone could take these topics and expand on them and write a book. It would be great to see a psychologist write it so it wouldn't be dismissed as "just a bunch of bitter apostates" even though the JWs would still dismiss it.

  One thing I noticed when I first got on the internet on other ex-jw sites that I've never seen here, is the superiority/inferiority complex that is caused by the org. Applies to all but kids as well. "You are one of the few people on earth that god loves because only you and a select few are doing his will. Everybody but you will be dead really really soon. Meanwhile, everybody hates you because you serve the one true god." Tends to mess with a kids mind.

  One of the big problems I have with them also is how they are ignorant to actual child welfare. Considering how they want to micro manage all members lives, all they do is throw a few bible quotes around, "don't spare the rod" and their go to solution for everything, "pray more, go in service more, don't miss meetings and do more personal study."