The first sounds my children made when they were born
Mountains....the ocean... the incredible colors of nature...the effect of light....
The size of the universe and beyond...
Coffee
The first sounds my children made when they were born
Mountains....the ocean... the incredible colors of nature...the effect of light....
The size of the universe and beyond...
Coffee
i am trying to build a list of hipocrisy with in the borg.
i dont mean things like the un scandal as people in the hall wont have heard of that, but smaller stuff that goes on all the time with out the rank and file noticing.
infant baptism.
Blondie
BTW, if a child is not old enough to choose to get married, drive, or drive alcoholic beverages
I'm still too young to drive alcoholic beverages...
Coffee
i am trying to build a list of hipocrisy with in the borg.
i dont mean things like the un scandal as people in the hall wont have heard of that, but smaller stuff that goes on all the time with out the rank and file noticing.
infant baptism.
Ah, Danny you really need try a little harder to take the rose colored glasses off....
Infant baptism? I was baptized at 8 years old. My friends in the congregation were baptized from age 10-12. A child of that age, whatever the level of understanding, is not mature enough to make a decision of that nature that will effect the rest of their lives. How old was Jesus when he was baptized? Ummmmmm.....30!
Contributions? Be honest, Danny....they spend a lot of time talking about money....how to leave your estate to the organization... etc/ As far as the contribution box that is in the back of every Kingdom Hall... it is just as visible...people see you put money in... My ex would always put a check in (instead of cash) so he could take the tax deduction.
About people being nicer outside the organization... You are told when you're inside that everyone outside is of the devil. That is definitely not true. Sure, there are many nice people in the organization....but their view of the world is warped. Some of the kindest warmest most generous people I have ever known were never jws.
*** I'll add another.... condemning other religious organizations for the money they have, while sitting on top of a multi-billion dollar real estate empire, not to mention their income.
(Not to hijack the thread...but in the thread about Watchtower control, I added quotes about not marrying or having children...didn't know if you saw them, since you wanted to see some references)
Coffee
leaving the organization, it is like packing for a journey you can choose what you take with you, and what you leave behind (other than people).
there are things i chose to take with me.
for example, i have used the sales training to my advantage over the years.
BizzyBee (love the name)
You're probably right...but I never had the fear of going door to door...or public speaking or sales because I started at age 4... so it was part of me growing up.
Coffee
some people's avatars make me smile, others make me think.
there are some that i just love to look at.
here are some of my favorites off the top of my head.
I always loved Brummie's avatar. What's not to love about a kitty with a bow tie?
Coffee
i may go to the kh to hear it myself...i want to make sure i go on the right date though....can't stomach more than 1 visit.
does anyone know when they will cover that article?.
coffee
I will be interested to see how they cover this...and define what an apostate is... I might even attempt to comment I can dress to look the part of a perfect dub...see if they call on me...heheheh....
Coffee
i may go to the kh to hear it myself...i want to make sure i go on the right date though....can't stomach more than 1 visit.
does anyone know when they will cover that article?.
coffee
Thanks.... This should be interesting....
Coffee
hey guys,.
listen, we were all "brothers" and "sisters" at one time and it didn't really mean shit.
i'd've turned my back on the lot o' ya when i was a jw and i found out you were apostates.. but now we're all truly brothers and sisters.
There's a helpline set up for people who need help. 800-why-1914. It's manned whenever possible, so you get a live person to talk to. Marilyn, who mans the helpline is a counselor and an xjw.
I helped out on the helpline for a number of years when circumstances allowed it. It was a learning experience for me... I had never realized the level of pain so many are in.
Coffee
ah, another fine day in apostaland.
question of the day: what makes you think you are right?
maybe you are headed down that broad and spacious road, something to think about.
Welcome Andy C.
You have much to learn. Most people here have invested countless hours researching and have learned things about the organization that prove beyond any doubt that the organization is a fraud. If you haven't done the research, then you know not of what you speak.
Pull up a chair...do your homework. You will be amazed.
Coffee
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thanks princess for helping us remember ari's screen name.. the "sad news from maui" thread is here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/107021/1.ashx
I am speachless. That Damn Watchtower society has more blood on its' hands. What a horrible shame.
Puternut, I never knew...I am so sorry.... You are missed.
Coffee