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  Has the Watchtower ever claimed to be inspired?

  by jwfacts in

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  does anyone know if the watchtower has ever claimed to be inspired?

  i know that they claim to be directed by holy spirit, which means the same as being inspired, but have they ever used the word inspired?

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  I did say something to that effect, Legolas. I pointed out that in the 3 hours that we had been talking, they had failed to answer a single question that I asked, or address any of the issues I had raised. One of them stood up and pointed a finger at me and said "You're really proud of all the research you've done, aren't you?" I stood up too...and said calmly, "No....actually, it's been the most humiliating experience of my life."

  It amazes me that they took no action against me because I really made them look like idiots. I faded without a single phone call or visit from them. It was almost a year later that someone reported my son attending a birthday party...and the fact that I had given my x a copy of Crisis of Conscience, that it was brought to a head, and I DAed. During that time..still officially in good standing, I manned the 800-why-1914 help-line.

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  Has the Watchtower ever claimed to be inspired?

  by jwfacts in

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  2. bible

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  does anyone know if the watchtower has ever claimed to be inspired?

  i know that they claim to be directed by holy spirit, which means the same as being inspired, but have they ever used the word inspired?

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  During a 3 hour meeting, during which I got to confront them about some of the things I had discovered about the organization, I asked the elders if they could please explain the difference between being inspired and spirit directed. I got the deer in the headlights look...and then one said he would like to know what I thought the difference was. I said "I don't know...that is why I'm asking you." No answer...tried to change the subject, but I wouldn't let them. They hemmed and hawed...and finally they said that I needed to have a Bible study with a mature member of the congregation, because "it was obvious that I had missed something in my years as a jw" Yep...he was right....during all the years as a dub, I missed the fact that it was a fraud.

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  Upcoming expedition to the 'Holy' land.

  by Franz in

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  myself and a number of other scholars i've met on the internet have decided to pool our money and expertise and undertake a fact-finding mission to the 'so called' holy land.

  as i've stated previously, we strongly feel that phenomena discussed in the bible, especially ezekiels wheel were indeed interplanetary craft, driven by lord's from beyond our star system.

  based on descriptions, we believe these may have been nuclear as a primary power source and we expect to find strong evidence in the desert of past nuclear activity.

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  Don't you have to get permission from the governments in the area you plan to explore? It's a huge area...and the desert shifts constantly... takes some pretty serious equipment...and lots of time. Hope you have both.

  Wishing you well...

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  How many congos

  by joelbear in

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  1. moultrie georgia, my dad helped build the town's first kingdom hall.. 2. ft. walton beach, told ken rogers i wanted to marry his daughter melanie.

  3. pensacola, always ticked off that i had to go to meeting when lost in space was coming on.

  4. jesup, ga, tiny little white block bldg, had to pass speaker to go to the bathroom, i was only witness kid in the town.

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  Where is my brain? He was born when we were in The Winter Garden Cong. I need more coffee!!!!

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  How many congos

  by joelbear in

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  1. moultrie georgia, my dad helped build the town's first kingdom hall.. 2. ft. walton beach, told ken rogers i wanted to marry his daughter melanie.

  3. pensacola, always ticked off that i had to go to meeting when lost in space was coming on.

  4. jesup, ga, tiny little white block bldg, had to pass speaker to go to the bathroom, i was only witness kid in the town.

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  OOps!!! forgot to add that my son was born while we were in Kissimmee Cong. 1981....

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  How many congos

  by joelbear in

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  1. moultrie georgia, my dad helped build the town's first kingdom hall.. 2. ft. walton beach, told ken rogers i wanted to marry his daughter melanie.

  3. pensacola, always ticked off that i had to go to meeting when lost in space was coming on.

  4. jesup, ga, tiny little white block bldg, had to pass speaker to go to the bathroom, i was only witness kid in the town.

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  1.Hyde Park, MA from birth in 1952 to Dec. 1970 (Baptized 1960 , married 1970)

  2.Toluka Lake, CA 1971- Spring 1972

  3.Vineyard Haven, (Martha's Vineyard) 1972- Spring 1973

  4.Fairhaven MA 1973 - Summer 1976 (daughter born 1976, we moved in with parents due to illness of both)

  5.Sharon MA 1976- December 1979 (Parents died in '77, '78, sold house moved to Florida)

  6.Kissimmee FL 1980 -1981

  8.Winter Garden Fl, 1981-1987

  9.Rosemont, FL 1987-1993 (Divorced 1990 then fading.... officially DAed in Aug. 1993)

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  WT library idea

  by coffee_black in

  1. watchtower
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  some here have original copies going back to russell's time.

  would it make sense to have a resource library available where we pool what we have?

  i have quiet a lot...it's sitting in boxes in my daughter's garage in florida at the moment, but i can get it at some point.

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  Hi Lady Lee,

  That's great! When I get my boxes...should I send you a list of what I've got?

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  WT library idea

  by coffee_black in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  some here have original copies going back to russell's time.

  would it make sense to have a resource library available where we pool what we have?

  i have quiet a lot...it's sitting in boxes in my daughter's garage in florida at the moment, but i can get it at some point.

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  Some here have original copies going back to Russell's time. Would it make sense to have a resource library available where we pool what we have? I have quiet a lot...it's sitting in boxes in my daughter's garage in Florida at the moment, but I can get it at some point. We could compile a list of what we have so that anyone looking for specific articles would have a contact. I think we have access to more than we realize.

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  Get a four door car...or else!

  by Dune in

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  i'm considering buying a car this year.

  i'm getting a really good offer for a 1994 ford mustang cobra for about $7500 (its been modified :-d ).

  and a black viper that a guy has been trying to sell me for weeks.

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  My dad bought me a used 2 door chevy nova convertible to commute to college. (he was an elder) The CO tried to get him on 2 issues.. my going to college and my 2 door convertible. The college issue was priceless...my dad made him look like an idiot. On the car issue my dad explained that he got a great deal on it that he couldn't pass up. Someone in his office sold it to him just when I needed it. Being an art major I had decorated the top with painted flowers...very realistic flowers. My father challenged the CO to show him how flowers would bring dishonor to Jehovah. It was 1969. The whole thing was hilarious. Dad won.

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  A Muslim thinks JW's are a Menace to them

  by ICBehindtheCurtain in

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  hey guys, i found the following to be quite interesting, they have some great links to jw literature, maybe this will help the lurkers to see that the house to house preaching waste of time, is pretty redundant as many religious people are now wise to the fallacy of the borg.

  what to you guys think?.

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  Hi Robdar,

  I don't agree with you...just recognize that you have every right to your opinion. .. as do I. I don't have an agenda...but I don't see the world through your eyes. I've had very different experiences than you have...

  No peace offering necessary....

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