She lived well, she loved well, she is remembered well...
My son sent me the following... It made me cry...
Enjoy,
Coffee
imagine that you are staring down from some ethereal plane of post-death...not the funeral, mind you, but perhaps years or decades after your physical decease.. what would you feel pleased to see written on your gravestone?.
me:.
he thought he'd figured it out,.
She lived well, she loved well, she is remembered well...
My son sent me the following... It made me cry...
Enjoy,
Coffee
i'd like you all to tell me 2 or 3 things:.
1- were you raised a witness or not?.
2-if you were, was your family very "theocratic" or not so much?.
1. yes
2. Theocratic but not fanatically so
3 Christian...but I don't believe I have to belong to a Church to have a relationship with God.
Coffee
the great experiment is failing.... .
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/11/mncuud91o.dtl.
Journey on...
You said it brilliantly!
Coffee
note: if you are cautious about being outted then be very careful what you post.. the biggest thing i learned was sign language.
after i left i had a few jobs interpreting.. public speaking - didn't help me at all - that could be because speaking to someone else on the platform doesn't gives women an opportunity to address the audience.
i took a intro course in public speaking that was far better than 22 years of the ministry school.. i'm thinking .
I made my first sales presentation for the organization when I was 4 years old. If you can do door to door sales, selling religion at that age, sales as a career is a piece of cake.
Today, I'm an Architectural consultant for a major window manufacturer. I'm technically not sales...more like education, marketing and public relations. I conduct Continuing education seminars for architects, promote our products, write specifications and do my share of schmoozing.... Public speaking is a major part of what I do. While the ministry school wasn't great training....I joined at age 8...and got over any stage fright years ago.
Coffee
last week i revisited a place in my youth that was important.
it no longer exists.
not even an address.
When I moved back to Massachusetts after living in Florida for about 20 years, I visited a lot of places from my past. I went to my first elementary school when they were renovating it. They let me walk through... lots of memories. I drove past the places I used to live...and most of the places that were important to me growing up. I've also done some research on my grandparents, and useing their marriage records, discovered the places they lived before they were married, when they first came to the U.S from Sweden in the early 20th century. I've driven by those houses... I plan on doing the same with the records of my maternal grandparents as well. It gives you a perspective...an idea of how the pieces of the puzzle work together....
I'm also dating someone I used to date as a jw....who is also an xjw.... we've been together for about 7 years now.... another memory revisited...that is now in my present. I've reconnected with people I went to elementary school with...and high school... and made friends with them....that I couldn't have done when I knew them growing up, because of the watchtower....
Coffee
i have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!
he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?
) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.
I have heard jws explain this away by saying that he was just expressing surprise or awe... like we would say Oh my lord...or Oh my God! not that he was addressing God...
Yeah... they used the same expressions that we do now.....r.i.g.h.t.....
Coffee
well i didnt take names but !!!!
i presume a few of you have guilty consciences!!!.
what on earth is wrong with you????
Changeling, I don't agree with this statement you made.
I will say this, honest posters will stay. The rest we can live without.
Many newbies coming here are fragile. Piling on, before you know all the facts can hurt and chase them away before they get the help they need. It's a scary thing to come here in the first place when you are taking the first baby steps out of the organization. I don't think that the litmus test for their honesty is their willingness to take punishment from people on this forum...especially when they are already going through a lot in the jw world. I think your statement above is cold.
Cognac is on the level. She is a spit fire...and I'm sure she is strong enough to get through the abuse she received on the forum. Her friend may not be so strong. I am looking forward to meeting both of them in person, and will do my best to repair the damage done.
The sad thing is we don't always get a chance to repair the damage. Words can hurt. Please remember that the next time guys, when you get the urge to attack a newbie...
Thanks Grace...you nailed it.
Coffee
and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.
so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.
all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.
Just posted on another thread, but in case you missed it, I have spoken on the phone with cognac for nearly 2 hours. She is on the level. She is overwhelmed with all she is finding out about the organization.... so for any doubters.....you can set your minds at rest.
Ok...I'm going to go have dinner now... will check the forum later....
Coffee
I talked to cognac for almost 2 hours on the phone. She is legit. Put your minds at rest. I haven't talked to Hypnotic as yet, but we're all going to try to meet for coffee (of course) some time next week. Cognac is very intelligent, and passionate, and overwhelmed with all she has found out about the organization.
Coffee
South Shore here...
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