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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  and all the FGM that goes on

  FGM is not a Muslim practice. It’s a regional one. Christians and Jews also practice it. See #9:
  

  https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/06/16/qa-female-genital-mutilation

  It predates Christianity and Islam.
  
  
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  wizzstick

  What on earth happened to poor Tommy Robinson? 10 Things You Should Know
  
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  2. current

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  wizzstick

  He pleaded guilty to a criminal offence.

  That’s why he went straight to prison.

  Why would they release someone who pleaded guilty?
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  Life update

  by campaign of hate in

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  i haven’t been on the forum for a few years, took a major break to sort my life / head out.. a lot happens in a few years!

  is there any meet ups planned in the uk?.

  hope everyone is doing well and look forward to getting stuck in..

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  It's a completely private group. It doesn't show up when people look at your profile.

  Link here

  They organise a number of meet up's and it's great for a UK centric look at JW-dom.
  
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

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  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  wizzstick

  Let's not forget that it took over 2 years, just for the U.S copyright office to transfer it from Cynthia to Deb.

  Really?

  So that would have been in 2016, by which time Deborah's husband was very ill.

  In that case I think she has done a remarkable job given the challenges she was facing at home.
  
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  wizzstick

  Evidently Ray Franz felt it was more important for his work to fall into the hands of his trusted friends

  Makes sense to me.
  
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  wizzstick

  Do they have permission to reproduce the booklet from the copyright owner?
  

  Again, from the link above:

  The reason I have included this in Appendix C is because Raymond Franz had intended to include it in the Appendix of a future edition. That has now happened.

  So what do you think?

  By the way, is there a good reason for your cynicism?
  
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  wizzstick

  But at the same time think she hasn't handled the publication of the book very well? Which predates illness and death of her husband by years.

  No it doesn't. Deborah states (emphasis mine):

  Along my journey since working on re-publication of the book, I have endured the heartache of my husband’s declining health, and fight for his life. On May 11, 2017, my darling husband, Dan Dykstra lost his battle for his life and he died. He was not well for a very long time. The past two years of his life were especially hard.

  Cynthia Franz died December 29th 2013.

  Deborah's husband died in May 2017, and as per the above she says the previous 2 years were very hard. So that goes back to 2015. And before that he was also ill ('for a very long time').
  

  So it's entirely possible that her husband was ill even when Cynthia died.

  Let's hold off on comments like 'she hasn't handled the publication of the book very well.'
  
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  From a reader's perspective however, the addition of an introduction from a Trinitarian, the great crowd booklet, and single pages from ISofCF in the appendix was not worth waiting 5 plus years. Was there some sort of misunderstanding that a new edition needed to be produced before it could be republished? I think the majority of people just wanted to read the original book as quickly as possible.

  The Trinitarian point is moot. There is nothing in the prologue about the trinity.

  The Great Crowd booklet has been added as this is what Ray Franz was going to do in a later edition.

  Single pages from ISofCF in the appendix were added as a convenience to readers (presumably so you don't need to have both books in front of you).

  We need to be mindful that Deborah Dykstra has been through a lot with her husbands years of ill health and subsequent death.

  You can read her statement here.
  

  Let's all agree that it's great to have CoC back.
  
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

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  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  wizzstick

  Why not simply republish the book?

  For the reason Debra outlined in the video.

  She now needs time to grieve her husband.