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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  Any more news on this?

  The guy from the production company didn't call back.

  There wasn't a mention on today's Feedback programme, so I've e-mailed the guy that called me (he e-mailed before he rang) and will get back with an update.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  If anyone gets a response (assuming it is not a form letter), it would be great if you post it here. Thanks!

  I did - just now!

  Just had a call from a very nice chap at the production company that made the programme.

  He wanted to know whether I would do a voice interview over a land line tomorrow morning. As my wife and I are fading I explained why I couldn't and he said he understood. I think he was trying to understand why this was an issue, so I briefly explained how the Neo-Babylonian period was a very well documented period and that there is no question of when Jerusalem fell. I also said that for Jehovah's Witnesses this is a important point, and the BBC broadcasting this date could result in them using it (in a publication).

  He could see my point and is going to call me back tomorrow. He doesn't know at this point whether it would be included in this weeks Feedback programme.

  He said (if I remember correctly) 3 or 4 complaints were received, so thanks to those that did.

  Good to know they have responded. And I'll let you know how the follow up call goes.

  (If anyone who did fill in the BBC complaint form, and I guess are in the UK, who would like to be interviewed then drop me a PM with your contact details on and I'll pass them on to the production company).
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  British PM hints at reporting abuse law change

  by wizzstick in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  mandatory reporting of child abuse?.

  www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28231675.

  be interesting to see how the wt applies the 'two witness rule' to this....

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  Mandatory reporting of child abuse?

  www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28231675

  Be interesting to see how the WT applies the 'two witness rule' to this...
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  Video - Brooklyn Eagle Bethel Tour

  by wizzstick in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  awful presenter, but worth watching if only for the jw.org badge on the jw pr guy.

  note his tie is the same colour... :.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eob8cirbaw.

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  Awful presenter, but worth watching if only for the JW.Org badge on the JW PR guy. Note his tie is the same colour... :

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EoB8CirBAw

  People saved for years for this? How very, very sad.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  wizzstick

  on Google there are about 100,000 references each to Jerusalem and 586 or 587

  there are about 2,000,000 references to 607

  Gah!
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  I doubt they looked at an old source, why would they? We'd be talking about a book from the 19th century!

  Either someone got it from JW literature or from a pro-JW site. No one else talks about 607.

  All historians site 586/587BC or 587BC as the correct date for the fall of Jerusalem. And all historical/Wiki websites do the same.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  Thanks Searcher.

  Have posted that link on JWR (credited to your good self) on a thread I've started there on this nonsense.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  I have it as an MP3. How do I upload the section?

  You could use SoundCloud:

  https://soundcloud.com/

  Then post the link here.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  Clicking on Show more it states:

  Producer: David Prest and Gil Percival
  A Whistledown production for BBC Radio 4

  But as they made this for BBC Radio 4, the form linked below probably is the best way of raising this:

  https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx/contact

  I'm going to drop them a polite message and ask that they to broadcast a correction. This is the problem when a publishing house like the Watchtower prints made up history to support its doctrine - it can end up in the mainstream. The BBC is a public service broadcaster so it is vital they get subjects like history correct and need to be held to account when they don't.

  Unbelievable.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  Good grief!

  You are absolutely right.

  Ok - I'm off to find out which muppets made this.