yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
I would LOVE to be called to the back room for this- and would plop down a Recorder and say- is this because I take Jesus's words about a SINGLE generation as true?
I don't get you Doc.
You say the above, yet in previous posts you say agree with the WTBS in that the Kingdom began to rule in 1914. You must realise that a generation doesn't last a 100 years?
So how do you reconcile this contradiction?
i have updated the article at memorial partakers with the figures released for 2014. no surprises here, it has risen yet again, this time by 6% over last year, and is now 14,121.. .
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Thanks Paul.
About two thirds of the way down, there is a paragraph that states:
As of 2010, it is 75 years since the calling was said to have closed...and so the youngest anointed from 1935 are now already 90
Could this be updated to; As of 2015, it is 80 years since the calling was said to have closed...and so the youngest anointed from 1935 are now already 95
It brings the article nicely up to date.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
Those religions are complete fabrications.
How do you know?
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
Wiz- your denial is tragilarious. WE didn't make up that name. However, you are corrtect on the baloney the WTBS has ADDED to the good news. Yet Churchianity doesn't even KNOW about the good news..
This isn't about whether JW's invented the word Jehovah - it's about the accuracy of that word. It's a made up name. Why would God want an incorrect rendering preached? How is preaching the wrong name any better that using LORD?
And if the WTBS was God's Organisation, why is he allowing 'baloney' to be added?
Ucan't- I have ALWAYS taken the WTBS dates with a BARREL of salt- however, 1914 IS pinpointed in Daniel's prophecies. The meaning as to what it signifies is what's at dispute.
1914 is NOT pinpointed in Daniel prophecies. To get there you start at 607, which is, as you might say, baloney.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
We have made God's Name known again- when Churchianity & Judaism almost wiped it out.
Jehovah is not God's name. In Hebrew scripture the Divine Name was represented by the tetragrammaton.The closest to that in English is Yahweh. The big problem with the word Jehovah is that it is a hybrid word derived by combining the Latin letters JHVH (for the tetragrammaton) with the vowels of Adonai (which means Master or Lord). It's simply a made up name. Imagine that the translation of God's name in English was Bill and a group went round calling itself Walters Witnesses, saying that they were preaching God's name which they say is Walter whereas everyone is wrong as they call him LORD. It's irrelevant that they spend a colossal amount of time preaching - it's still a nonsense name.
Jesus foretold that in the end times the good news of the KINGDOM would be preached to the world.
The JW version of this goes as follows. Around 1914 there was a war in heaven, and Satan and his followers were cast out. Jesus Christ began ruling as King in 1914 and 1914 therefore becomes the start of the Last Days.
We don't need to even start on what the future holds. The above is all based on 607 being right. It is not. So this means the Witnesses have spent countless billions of hours preaching the wrong date for the war in heaven, the wrong date for when Christ took up reigning and the wrong date for the start of the Last Days! And peoples reaction to this unholy mess is how God will judge them as worthy of life or death?!
It's a shambles. How can this in anyway contribute to 'vindicating God's sovereignty?' How does God getting his people (or allowing his people) to preach false dates and then killing billions who don't listen to such nonsense prove his right to rule?
So it doesn't matter about Trinity's or whether other doctrines are right or wrong.
Once you've understood all of that, read up on the mess which is the Christian Greek Scriptures. And then you'll realise the whole thing is an utter waste of time.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
And look at some of the nonsense they spout- and how they set rules that help most, harm a few, and sometimes go AGAINST scripture.
Stop right there.
The above applies to JW's (as you rightly said) and it applies to Christendom. You are a modern atypical JW. You know it's BS but your fall back position is - well where else do we go? And then jump about pointing at Christendom.
Grow up and do some real research on the Christian Greek Scriptures. Professor Bart d. Ehrman has written some great books which explain his journey from being a christian to an agnostic. Get your head round the huge number of inconsistencies that JW's and Christendom are united in ignoring.
Once you realise how much of the scriptures is a best guess, then it'll dawn on you that arguing over doctrines is liking re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic. A total waste of time.
What year was that nicolaou?
following my departure from the jehovah's witnesses, i have done my own research using preterism as a primary lens.
i would like to share my understanding of daniel chapter 2:.
31 "you looked, o king, and there before you stood a large statuean enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance.
Some people reallly need to read Bart D. Ehrman 's books.
Once you've read them, you'd abandon the idea that the NT testement is inspired. You may as well be examining the Lord Of The Rings books for insight into the future.
ijust ran across this.
obviously its not a real talk but has anyone heard of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbygp5gd-oo&feature=related.
interesting audio article:.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p022y8f1.
nothing about the bible students of course.
Interesting audio article:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p022y8f1
Nothing about the Bible Students of course. JW's says that because they weren't clear on the the issue of neutrality during WW1 they were punished with prison sentences for the Directors.
So it's interesting that God chose them rather them the Quakers or other Christian faiths who took the stand they did and suffered for it...
