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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

  its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

  it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

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  Yes its going to be huge!!!!!!!

  They have not brought that much land!

  They are scaling BACK not up.
  

  Deary me - stop believing all the guff plonkers at the KH tell you.
  
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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

  its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

  it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

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  Why did they reduce from 1000s of people to just 30 key members for this levelling off?

  Because if that's the job in hand, and you don't needs 1000s there you send them home. Otherwise you have to feed them. And than costs £££

  You only have on site who you need. Simples.

  Seriously, armageddon is not coming. Until you research all this stuff in-depth you will be a slave to their ever changing teachings forever.
  

  And if you are going to the hall, then your're not a former brother.
  
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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

  its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

  it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

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  This is what 300 hectares looks like (298 to be precise):

  I've left Chelmsford in for context...
  

  
  
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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

  its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

  it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

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  Your post just makes the point, dont believe everything you read on the internet, you are clearly wrong and I am correct here.

  How are you correct? You have produced zero evidence!
  

  Where is your proof?

  Rocking up on a internet board writing without producing evidence is not proof of being correct!
  

  Just ask anybody who knows about Chelsmford, did they buy hundreds more acres after the original 82? Yes they did.

  300 hectares = over 740 acres of land.
  

  Which is huge. Where exactly is this vast swathe of land? Because I know Essex very well so do tell.
  

  Evidence is not asking a mate what he has heard!

  I say you're making stuff up, so produce evidence or go away.
  
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  The real reason Chelmsford hasn't been stopped

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i haven't seen this mentioned yet.

  last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.

  this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.

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  something big being built underground at the site

  Maybe it's a powerplant room? Or a laundry?

  (Pssst. It won't be anything to do with armageddon, so don't fret)
  
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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

  its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

  it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

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  They are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

  Nonsense. They won't pay people to do that and they're scaling back at Bethel. Local JW fantasy talk.
  

  over 300 Hectares of beautiful forests and country walks or bike riding. Strictly only for JW's they are also setting up a very high end security system with border security.

  Nonsense. They have not bought 300 hectares. More local JW fantasy talk.

  You can only gain entry to the compound on the invite of one of the Bethelites or if you book a tour, then you will be recorded and given an electronic badge which you have to keep with you at all times. Each badge has a locator on it and everybody will be tracked 100% of the time, if anybody is found without the locator badge there will be an investigation and all activities will be recorded by the hundreds of high end HD cameras everywhere.

  Nonsense. Total JW fantasy. Investigate what? That someone took the badge off when they were in the loo?

  Go back to pumping silver.

  And you're username is contrary to your posting activity.
  
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  ATT: WARNING

  by EJ257 in

  1. watchtower
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  please be aware of everything that is happening around the world at this moment in time.

  this goes to anyone, ex-communicated, removed, serving, believer and non.

  at this point in my observations i have realized many religions/ideologies know there is some sort "end of time" or a transition into a new order of living in this earth.

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  I have souRces
  

  You should probably get some cream for that.
  

  
  
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  But your grand children won't...

  Our grandkids won't worry about religion, anymore that the growing number of young people today do. In the West in particular, it is in the dustbin of history.
  

  It doesn't matter who you are, human beings love rituals.

  Yes they do. Going to the shopping mall, the restaurants, bowling, movies and so on. Without any need for the sky fairy nonsense that goes with some rituals.
  
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  Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
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  after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

  but some left the organization.

  however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

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  What deluded nonsense:

  “JWs are right in their core cause (God’s Kingdom as the solution to mankind’s problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area.”

  You could re-word the above like this:

  
  “The Church are right in their core cause (Christ as the solution to mankind’s problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area.”

  I've met church goers who admit that the Trinity may not be correct, BUT they said, they have faith in Christ to handle his church in the right way and in his time.

  See any difference? None. Both groups see the problems but stay.
  

  JW's refer to their faith as The Truth. Not the 'part-ly Truth', not 'The Truth on the core issues but maybe not the supplementary teaching'. It's The Truth. Nothing less.
  

  JW's have demonstrably false teachings, such as:

  • 1914
  • The Generation of Matt 24
    
  • New Light
  • The Great Crowd in being on Earth
    
  • Christ being the mediator only for the Anointed

  
  

  They have been a 100% false prophet. Every single prediction and speculation they have ever made has failed. They repeatedly claim to be under God's Spirit yet their track record betrays them.

  Looking at the above, and your point around "may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area.” have you ever stopped to think how this would make God look, if they were really his people.
  

  Apparently God condemns the Church as the centre of the Babylon the Great. It's condemned for it's false teachings. Yes His organisation can have false teachings, shun people who highlight this (for the rest of their lives) and that's absolutely fine.

  Have you never thought how God would look like a massive hypocrite? JW's like you think you're being clever but you're only looking at it from your perspective.
  

  Not how it makes God look.

  Look at this image below:
  

  
  

  
  

  Children dying because of some mens interpretation of blood in the Bible demonstrates how dangerous this group are.

  But I guess that's also one of those teachings which falls into your 'unimportant area'.
  

  Right?
  
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  Confronting Parents About 607 vs 587

  by breezy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just thought i would update you guys since my 1st post last week.i haven't been to the meeting for about 2 weeks now, and maybe have like 1 or 2 hours of service combined within the past 2-3 months.

  i obviously get the love bombing from relatives when they don't see you at the hall for a while.

  " we missed you at the meeting last week.

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  They're obviously using the 537 day as for when the jews returned and then adding 70 years to get 607

  The idea that the 70 years finishes in 537 can be shot down using one scripture in the Bible. Jer 25:12:

  12 “‘But when 70 years have been fulfilled, I will call to account* the king of Babylon and that nation for their error,’ declares Jehovah, ‘and I will make the land of the Chal·de′ans a desolate wasteland for all time.

  On JW. Org when you click on the * it says punish.
  

  So the question for your parents is, when does this 70 years end? Presumably they will say 537. But then ask them how can you punish a King who hasn't been in place as a king for two years? He was overthrown in 539!
  

  Even the Bible contradicts WT theology. I guess the Bible is wrong huh?