the wts teaches, that from 1914 onward, a sign has been evident, which is proof of god's kingdom.
jw profess to see that sign.
a "sign" means evidence from god.
Not only Jesus but Moses, etc. provided signs for the purpose of convincing with solid evidence -not everyone accepted the evidence, however.
And where is your proof, undeniable evidence that they provided these signs?
If it's merely the Bible then I'm afraid that doesn't count.
so things have been calm so far...knock on wood!!!
but i was thinking today...a month ago in one of our arguments.
i told her the 144000 was not to considered a literal number.
they are literally 12000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel
An old idea but a flawed one. The list of the 12 tribes in Revelation is different to the actual list. Rev:7 doesn't list the Tribe of Dan. Instead it lists the half-tribe of Manasseh.
So there's no way it can be literal.
they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
You are attempting to measure God with your ruler.
Well duh, who else can we compare God too?
If he falls short of an imperfect human ruler, then there's a serious problem with God. Not us.
they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
In my opinion the bible is written with symbols, metaphors, allegories and other literary devices and one must spend a lifetime studying and reading it.
And millions of people have felt the same, over 2,000 years, and have come up with all sorts of interpretations by the end of their life.
That's not very helpful now is it?
I can't prove but that is what I think.
And many Jews feel the same about the Torah.
And even more Muslims feel the same about the Koran.
http://www.commentarypress.com/copyright/.
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https://youtu.be/fdzzl453drq.
BTW: CESNUR is not a reputable organization to quote from or trust.
Started by the Catholics:
While established in 1988 by scholars who were mostly Roman Catholic, CESNUR has had from its very beginning boards of directors including scholars of a variety of religious persuasions.
'nuff said.
http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
Yes its going to be huge!!!!!!!
They have not brought that much land!
They are scaling BACK not up.
Deary me - stop believing all the guff plonkers at the KH tell you.
http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
Why did they reduce from 1000s of people to just 30 key members for this levelling off?
Because if that's the job in hand, and you don't needs 1000s there you send them home. Otherwise you have to feed them. And than costs £££
You only have on site who you need. Simples.
Seriously, armageddon is not coming. Until you research all this stuff in-depth you will be a slave to their ever changing teachings forever.
And if you are going to the hall, then your're not a former brother.
http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
This is what 300 hectares looks like (298 to be precise):
I've left Chelmsford in for context...
http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
Your post just makes the point, dont believe everything you read on the internet, you are clearly wrong and I am correct here.
How are you correct? You have produced zero evidence!
Where is your proof?
Rocking up on a internet board writing without producing evidence is not proof of being correct!
Just ask anybody who knows about Chelsmford, did they buy hundreds more acres after the original 82? Yes they did.
300 hectares = over 740 acres of land.
Which is huge. Where exactly is this vast swathe of land? Because I know Essex very well so do tell.
Evidence is not asking a mate what he has heard!
I say you're making stuff up, so produce evidence or go away.
i haven't seen this mentioned yet.
last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.
this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.
something big being built underground at the site
Maybe it's a powerplant room? Or a laundry?
(Pssst. It won't be anything to do with armageddon, so don't fret)
