Posts by wizzstick

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

wizzstick

It's more like saying if you are not in a hetrosexual marriage you will have to remain celibate until armageddon which is "just around the corner".

Crofty - I'm genuinely stunned you're failing to see this.

Gay JW's will presumably change their nature into heterosexual once the big A has been and gone.

Straight JW's will not. They will stay straight.

But in the real world, gay people can't change. That is how they are. The WT is suggesting they can change - if they want to please God.

I suggest you speak to gay ex-JW's, as I have, and understand how utterly miserable this situtaion was for them. It wasn't about being unable to find a mate due to circumstances outside of their control, but being FORBIDDEN to find a mate.

With any heterosexual JW there is always a chance.

With gay JW's there is absolutely no chance.

So to suggest they could change is a hateful stance to take.

Take some time off line to reach out to gay ex-JW's and find out what it was like to be in that situation for decades (in some cases), with no hope of a way out.

Being gay in the JW organisation is VERY different to being straight.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

wizzstick

It is relevant, the ones that don't find a mate are expected to remain celibate.
The JW position is no sex outside marriage. It's ridiculous but it isn't hate.

I wonder if gay JW's would agree with such a viewpoint?

I say again:

Most heterosexual JW's find a mate.

Zero homosexual JW's can find a mate.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

wizzstick

It isn't hateful it's just dumb.

It is hateful.

The message is, if you're gay you can change.

You can't.

It's like me saying, if you want to you can stop being straight. And because of that, if you don't you will have to be celibate until you die.

Hate doesn't need to be about about screaming at people. Foaming at the mouth Westboro style. It can be about placing someone into impossible situation and making them feel it's their fault.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

wizzstick

A lot of JWs fail to find a mate in the cult and are condemned to a life of enforced celibacy.

That's not a relevant example.

Most heterosexual JW's find a mate.

Zero homosexual JW's can find a mate.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

wizzstick

They demand that a gay person stops having a gay sexual relationship. That is unreasonable and narrow-minded but I don't think it amounts to hatred of gay people.

Really? Let's imagine this is a racial way:

They demand that a black person stop having a sexual relationship. That is unreasonable and narrow-minded but I don't think it amounts to hatred of black people.

Can a person of colour change their skin colour?

No.

So this would amount to hatred not in a direct way, but indirectly, by impacting on their sex life. Which is a basic human need.

Can a gay person change their sexuality?

No.

So again, this amounts to hatred not in a direct way, but indirectly, by impacting on their sex life. Which is a basic human need.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

wizzstick

This way well go viral.

I truly hope so.

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The Latest: Prince's sister says he had no known will

by pixel in

http://bigstory.ap.org/91ff5f9a086b4824bca6039f01f5fbc3.

well, let's see .

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

wizzstick

BBC News: Prince 'did not leave will', sister Tyka Nelson tells court

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Any thought behind your " Avatar"

by The Rebel in

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friends

i think that's the correct phrase?

anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.

now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.

wizzstick

My avatar is a publicity photo from the TV series Utopia.

Which seems appropriate for JW's.

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Interesting statement regarding "this generation"

by InChristAlone in

jw
friends

i keep up with allexperts.com, and i noticed an interesting question to "brother rando".

his statement surprised me, and i am wondering if i missed some new light along the way.. question:.

"hello bro rando.

wizzstick

100 years or so maxes out generation.

Genesis 50: 22-23

22 And Joseph continued to dwell in Egypt, he and the household of his father, and Joseph lived for 110 years. 23 Joseph saw the third generation of Eʹphraim’s sons, also the sons of Machir, Manasseh’s son. They were born upon Joseph’s knees.

Over a 110 year period, how many generations did Joseph live to see?

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UK Charity Commission Asks For Experiences/JWVictims.org Article

by Iown Mylife in

article dated 4/19/16, says jonathan sanders is asking for statements from uk residents, about jw experiences that have happened since 2011, to assist the investigation.. marina.

wizzstick

Link

“Dear All,

I hope you are all well. It is bright and sunny here in London so I hope the weather is good in your part of the world.

We are continuing to make good progress on our inquiries into safeguarding and charities linked to Jehovah’s Witnesses; I am also pleased to say that we are in addition making progress in addressing the complaints we have received regarding governance and the public benefit delivered by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain. I am looking forward to being able to share further information with you on both counts in the very near future.

I would now like to ask people who have experience of the following to let me know if they would be prepared to make a formal written statement:

Direct, first-hand experience
Of safeguarding
In charities linked to congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses
In England and Wales
After 2011
And NOT currently being investigated by the police or going through the criminal or civil courts

I know that there are many people whose experience has been different. I would like to assure you that I value the information you have shared with me to date. I hope it will be all right for us to stay in touch so that we can communicate with each other about the way the inquiries are going; I in any case anticipate that I will be coming back in the not too distant future with further appeals for witnesses who have had different experiences.

I also recognise that there are many people who are not in a position to provide a statement. Please do not feel under any pressure from me to do anything that is not right for you; and again please allow me to assure you that the information you have shared has been invaluable in helping us to develop our lines of inquiry.

Some of you have already contacted me either directly or indirectly with details of your experiences. I am very thankful to you for doing this. I am however mindful of the need to ensure that whatever steps we take are underpinned by best evidence, and so this is why I am now asking you to consider working with me to translate the emails and letters you have sent into formal statements.

If your experiences are reflected above, I would be very grateful if you would consider contacting me so that I can give you more information about the next steps. I would envisage meeting in person and taking a statement from you. I would not ask any questions about the detail of the abuse but would rather ask about how the trustees of the congregational charities dealt with what happened.

I know this is a lot to think about so please let me know if you have any questions. I would as ever be very pleased to field questions on any other aspect of our work or simply to catch-up!

Take care,

Jonathan.

Jonathan Sanders

Senior Investigator

Investigations Monitoring & Enforcement

Charity Commission

*: [email protected]

(: 0300 065 2075

8: www.charitycommission.gov.uk

.: Charity Commission | PO Box 211 | Bootle | L20 7YX”