Posts by wizzstick

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Mouthy has Passed Away

by Simon in

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update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

wizzstick

How very sad.

Grace was a real character, a lovely lady and showed it was possible to wake up at any age.

Sending best wishes to her family.

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Fidel Castro and the WT

by Hecce in

i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.

you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.

during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.

wizzstick

Interesting thread.

And thanks for putting the September 8th 1960 Awake article up. From the last paragraph:

Observers everywhere will be interested to learn that God's Word foretells a coming all-out attack by the Soviet planners against the servants of Jehovah. (Dan. 11: 44, 45) This aggression by the Communist world~grabbers constitutes grounds for Almighty God's predicted destruction of international communism, "and there will be no helper for him." Designers of the Soviet master plan will learn the hard way: "Many are the plans in the heart of a man, but the counsel of Jehovah 'is what will stand."-Prov.19:21. 19

Yet another prediction made by the WT that failed.

Grief - even a broken clock can be accurate twice every day.

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Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice

by xxBettyBoopxx in

this site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.

but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.

tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.

wizzstick

KateWild / xxBettyBoopxx / lara croft et al: please stop trolling with duplicate accounts. It's dishonest and I'm done with your endless drama and attempts at disruption.

Really? It's Kate?

How very sad.

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Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice

by xxBettyBoopxx in

this site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.

but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.

tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.

wizzstick

Your family is dead until they save themselves

Wow - that was helpful.

Please peddle your sky fairy crap somewhere else.

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Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

by Tenacious in

for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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happy reading!.

wizzstick

In his last years I don't believe Ray was concerned with the distributing of his information but rather that it was available.

What evidence do you have to back that statement up?

It's clearly obvious you have not read both of Ray's books, otherwise, you would know how Ray and Nestor K. felt about the spreading of this 'vital' information.

I have read both and can't think of anything that suggested that he wanted to give his book away for free.

He could have easily put a free to download PDF on the Commentary Press website.

Why didn't he?

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Generation expiry date?

by pleaseresearch in

how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

wizzstick

something must give by 2017 latest

So on Jan 1st 2018...then what?

You renounce the WT as a false prophet?

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Online article, ex JW

by Lostandfound in

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jehovahs-witnesses-religion-christianity-religious-group-what-is-it-like-a7214966.html?cmpid=facebook-post.

not sure if this already posted, article from uk independent online newspaper.

wizzstick

I think it's great to see.

It seems to have had quite a reaction:

UPDATE: Wow, this just exploded. Please bear with me as I try to keep up with all the questions!
UPDATE 2: Thanks for all the questions people, there were so many that unfortunately I couldn't answer them all, but my fellow Ex-JWs managed to answer a few. I will return here tomorrow and try to answer ones that were left unanswered. And even after the AMA ends I urge you to visit r/exjw, you will get even more answers there.
UPDATE 3: R.I.P. Inbox. 1100 unread messages. It will probably take a while to take it down to 0 :).

For us it's nothing new, but the more people start to realise what a high control group the JW's are, the better.

It certainly doesn't hurt to see more Elders (in this case from Poland) waking up.

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Did the flood happen?

by BlackWolf in

so we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.

you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.

of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.

wizzstick

Scientific evidence is subject to interpretation. Jesus confirmed that it did by referring to it same as he confirmed the creation of Adam and Eve by referring to them.

The passages in the Bible are copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies etc.

If there is anything that is of questionable interpretation then it's the Bible!

I'll trust the overwhelming evidence that there wasn't a global flood as opposed to bronze age scribes.

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Generation expiry date?

by pleaseresearch in

how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

wizzstick

something must give by 2017 latest

So on Jan 1st 2018...then what?

You renounce the WT as a false prophet?

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Benefits to Faith over Reason

by cobweb in

i wrote this earlier for my own benefit in order to get some thoughts straight in my head.

it is just my own personal pondering on what i think might be the motivating force behind having a faith.

it is not intended to attack, provoke or patronize anyone who has a belief and i hope it is not taken in that way.

wizzstick

You are absolutely correct in that people who do not have faith do not have happiness or overall good feelings inside of them.

That's simply not true. If you believe that then you don't know those people at all.

Personally, I feel most people who choose to disbelieve do so because it's basically the norm nowadays and everyone is doing it. This is just a classic case of conformity within the human race.

Atheists are still in the minority - so how do you come to that conclusion?