Posts by wizzstick

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A Must-Watch video for all those trying to break free or fade!

by stuckinarut2 in

for any who may be fading, or trying to break free from the society, or those who fear how things will transpire , please do yourself a favour and watch this video!.

it is long, but worth the investment in time, for it will help in many ways.. its called "coming out" by theramin trees, and for those who "come out" about recognising the truth of the society, it will help.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-8ocmtb_8.

wizzstick

Good shout. These videos are really worth a watch.

They're created by a British guy who left his Church a few years ago. He and his brother both now have channels on You Tube exploring their Atheism.

After they left there church they encountered the JW's and there is a great video covering their experience and how he destroyed a classic JW argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWeHB4qM1Hg&feature=youtu.be

There's a brilliant video on the danger of the indoctrination of children:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlbUw5hjeKI

Another video explores his experience of becoming an apostate, and his parents reaction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTZBVlg3nI

I'd encourage you all to view these. They're really worth a watch.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

wizzstick

victims bear responsibility, not blame, if they build in areas where disasters are guaranteed to happen, like very close to railroad tracks, road sides, as the very poor are forced to do in some countries

How can the poor, who as you say are forced into building in these areas, also bear responsibility?

Where is your God in this oxymoronic statement?

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

wizzstick

But the attempt to substitute actual argument with ad hominem psychobablle is pretty transparent.

Transparent?

Of what?

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

wizzstick

The point is that there may be a good reason that we are not aware of.

When God appears and tells us then let's all discuss the reason.

Until then forget about it.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

wizzstick

I am simply saying it is at least possible there are things about reality, our human predicament, and the history of life that we don't fully understand and are not in a position to understand.

Maybe. Maybe not. As that advertising campaign said:

There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

Enjoy your life SBF. Stop spending time worrying about these things. You can never get this time back.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

wizzstick

Good explanation of the reasons why the problem of evil doesn't necessarily disprove a loving God, especially the third video.

Seriously? You watched that video and thought it was a good explanation?

1. His first point is an old as the hills and totally moronic. 'If God exists we would expect that many of his reasons for doing things are stuff we can't figure out.' This pre-supposes that God is a being that will not communicate his reasons for doing things. But if such a being exists why should we bother to be interested in it?

2. We can figure things reasons God might have lots of the evil in the world - and he lists free will and a cause and effect universe. No we can't figure it out! Because why would a vastly intelligent being who can create life, the universe and everything not be able to set up things up so that they don't create such evils. Why did he create us with the ability to see evil and not create a universe that doesn't contain it? That's why the big bang and evolution makes more sense to me. I look at Parasitoids and ask myself, does that look like the work of vastly intelligent creator or the result of evolution? Because if they were created, that God is sick.

SBF - I hope you get answers to your questions. You come across as a slightly tragic figure who has lost his JW faith and now just restlessly searching for meaning in life. I feel sorry for you.

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

wizzstick

It's how the story relates to the culture that's the issue.

It's been used for power by the Churches for years,

That's not a great plus point.

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"Exodus:Why Americans are leaving Religion-and Why They'er Unlikely to come back.

by James Mixon in

religion news article by lauren markoe.. some interesting points in the article.

the study follows the publication earlier this year of a book.

by study co-author and prri founder robert p. jones, titled "the end of white christian america".. the name "nones" are people who claim no affiliation with religion, they outnumber any religious denomination.. according to the poll-which has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percent-age points-the nones have.

wizzstick

When I said I've been around as long as I have I meant that since I'm only 18 and what I've seen so far in my life. I just don't think others have really looked at things in the country the way I have but that doesn't mean that you guys are inferior, it just means that you guys need to look harder to find the truth that America is filled with just too many atheists and I don't mean to be a fool when I'm saying this but the truth is that everyone really needs to consider amping up their own faith for us as a country to go on making it like we used to because at any moment now this country, and I do mean this entire country, can fail because of this

Oh grow up.

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

wizzstick

In order to silence Knorr's speech, several war veterans attempted to cut the phone line. A number of Witnesses, alerted to the threat, came out the rear door, reportedly armed with clubs and sticks, and a fight ensued. At least three Klamath Falls residents were injured seriously enough to be taken to the hospital.

Jehovah's Witnesses Riots, 1942

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

wizzstick

Additionally, JW's are quite happy to use violence when it suits them. This quote relates to a Convention held during WW2 where there was mob violence:

The Witnesses defended themselves and when the door was closed again, one attacker—“a large powerful man”—lay unconscious inside the building. He was a police officer and his picture was taken with his badge alongside his face. “We called the Red Cross,” says Brother Milford, “and they sent in two women with a stretcher and took him out. He was later heard to say, ‘I didn’t think they would fight.

THE "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" IS AGAINST VIOLENCE?