for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.
Without the threat of shunning, what are they (any jw) going to do about it...?
Shun!
Shunning is something anyone can do. You don't have to be a JW to shun someone.
JW's have been told to shun all their lives - do you really think they'd stop just because the organization said the DF'ing was stopping?
for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.
If you end shunning its actually not a cult anymore
Shunning is just part of a cult but that is not the whole story. They:
Tell you who you can have sex with
What clothes you can wear
What music you can listen to
What films you can watch
What friends you can have
What education you can get
What health care you can't have if it involves blood or part of blood
It consumes your time with mind numbing meetings designed to keep you busy
You'll be expected to go out door to door to peddle their BS
They lie to their members and do not allow people a space to voice divergent perspectives
You really want to go back to that?
Shunning is directed by the Organization but enacted by the JW populace. For years they've been told this is scriptural. Do you honestly think if the Org stopped it tomorrow that all the individual Witnesses would stop?
The damage by the cult is done, and people will remain with a cult mentality.
I miss my wonderful friends but there is not enough money on this planet to get me to return to that genuine waste of life.
for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.
Im on record saying that if they ended df’ing (shunning), i mean really ended it not just changed the name, id go back, at least nominally.
Why on earth would anyone go back?
It's a cult!
Sanderson (and the guy to his right) look very well fed.
for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.
That's interesting. I've only managed to locate and visit Grace Communion International congregations. I can't find any active WWCG splinter groups locally. I was told by a Grace Communion International member that there were a few adherents of a splinter group called "United Church of God" in Scotland but they didn't last long and have no active congregations in Scotland. Maybe one in Newcastle, I was told.
This is something I have found: just because a group has a presence on the Internet, doesn't necessarily mean they have a functioning church in the real world. I think some of the WWCG splinter groups faded away pretty quickly and exist in name only. (On that, I suspect that the "Lord's Witnesses" may be as real as Gordon Ritchie's chronology. Has anyone ever been to any of their meetings to verify they exist?)
The church headed by Jospeh Tkach (pronounced t-catch) is by far the biggest, although it has shrunk a lot. By the way I heard from an insider that Tkach is retiring next year. I wonder how that will work and if it will survive without him.
Interesting thoughts there.
The GCI Wikipedia page has some interesting points that could in time end up applying to the Org.
In general, Tkach Sr. directed the church theology towards mainstream evangelical Christian belief mostly against the wishes of his congregations and they were given no input as he had maintained the same structure as Mr Armstrong. This caused much disillusionment among the membership and another rise of splinter groups. All these changes, the church admits, have organizationally brought about "catastrophic results," though they believe that it is spiritually the best thing that ever happened to them.
Though many of the current members, however still follow his basic beliefs and would consider the current administration as apostate despite still attending.
Today, the GCI headquarters has downsized for financial survival. The denomination sold much of its property, including sites used for festivals, campsites built for teenagers, its college campuses, and private aircraft.[citation needed] They discontinued publishing all the books, booklets and magazines published by Armstrong.
To further economize, the church sold its properties in Pasadena and purchased an office building in Glendora, California.
the story mentions they may come after jw's-.
http://www.sltrib.com/religion/local/2017/11/07/memo-to-all-religions-mormonleaks-may-be-coming-after-you-with-new-faithleaks-site/?hl=1&noredirect=1.
There website is here:
It includes instructions on how to send them documents.
Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/FaithLeaks
Personally I think it's great. It may even help some JW's wake up if they see documents on a more generalist website rather that an 'apostate' one.
can anyone remember this?.
in a mid-80s i seem to remember a publication with a box on a page.. inside the box it was saying something like 'some have wondered if 1934 could be the correct starting date, if 587bce was the fall of jerusalem.
but history has shown it was 1914'.. does this ring any bells?.
Thank you to kjkidd and freddo - I have it now!
Image from WT:
Thank you to everyone who replied.
can anyone remember this?.
in a mid-80s i seem to remember a publication with a box on a page.. inside the box it was saying something like 'some have wondered if 1934 could be the correct starting date, if 587bce was the fall of jerusalem.
but history has shown it was 1914'.. does this ring any bells?.
Thanks Steve2.
Have been searching JWFacts and Googling but no joy so far.
can anyone remember this?.
in a mid-80s i seem to remember a publication with a box on a page.. inside the box it was saying something like 'some have wondered if 1934 could be the correct starting date, if 587bce was the fall of jerusalem.
but history has shown it was 1914'.. does this ring any bells?.
Can anyone remember this?
In a mid-80s I seem to remember a publication with a box on a page.
Inside the box it was saying something like 'some have wondered if 1934 could be the correct starting date, if 587BCE was the fall of Jerusalem. But history has shown it was 1914'.
Does this ring any bells?
If so do you know which publication (name, date and page would be helpful)?
Thanks in advance.
ask any jw this one question.
are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.
100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.
When messiah returned for his elect in 70ad
But the Apostle John lived beyond 70ad - why was he left behind?
