For eating dead animals?
How would it distinguish between a sleeping animal and a dead animal?
wizzstick
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Animals not meant to eat meat
by Carl injw don't believe in evolution .
how come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?
sharks for instance have razor sharp pointy teeth these are not to eat vegetation .
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Hello Everyone
by Mozzie inhoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.
hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.
i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.
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wizzstick
If you want to wallow in self-pity, he's your man.
Wow - so if Mozzie reads Ehrman's books he must want to wallow in self-pity?
Nice.
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Hello Everyone
by Mozzie inhoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.
hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.
i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.
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wizzstick
I truly feel sorry for you.
You've spent years worrying about the JW's and God. I would encourage you to read more on the Bible. If that is not the word of God then, really, why worry anymore?
Try and get hold of Bart D. Ehrman's books, Misquoting Jesus and Jesus, Interrupted.
Then try Dan Barker's Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists.
They will really help you.
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The Kingdom—100 Years of Freemasonic Propaganda
by jwdoctrine inthe kingdom—100 years of freemasonic propaganda.
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new post on http://jwdoctrine.com/the-kingdom-100-years-of-freemasonic-propaganda/ now connects pinky rings ,freemasonry and symbolism .....
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wizzstick
Agree.
Like the obsession with seeing things in images in the WT publications, this kind of thing makes some ex-JW's look bat shit crazy.
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How did all these civilizations survive the flood?
by losthobbit inflood 2304 bc (http://creation.com/the-date-of-noahs-flood).
neolithic 8500-1500 bc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_neolithic_cultures_of_china).
egyption dynasty 4 2613 to 2494 bc, dynasty 5: 2494 to 2345 bc, dynasty 6: 2345 - 2181 bc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_ancient_egyptian_dynasties).
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wizzstick
So, as a result, we have spies who are deliberately lying to Moses and his people.
And that is also what the WT says about them:
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Am i reading this right...? The preaching work is done??
by Nobodyspecial inim sorry if this has been addressed, i have not seen any topics on this yet.. the wt for today seems to state, quiet plainly, that preaching work is done.
para 14,15 the question asks:.
"what proves that jehovahs witnesses have fulfilled jesus' prophecy with regard to the scope of the work?".
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wizzstick
Something must give within this year or next year at most.
When we get to the end of 2017 and there is still no end in sight, will you continue to be a JW?
Or will you finally pack it in?
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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wizzstick
Why did you ignore all my other examples?
For three reasons.
1) They are taking us further and further from the OP and muddying a pretty simple argument - suggesting 'gay's can change' is wrong. Expressing that view should be challenged and not defended under freedom of speech. Disliking a video is a way of challenging this.
2) Your first example:
What if a gay man says his gay relationship is a choice? Should he be charged with a hate crime too?
I've worked with a number of gay men who have all said that they have felt that way for their entire life. So unless you can provide an example of this then I'd suggest this is a strawman argument.
3) Lastly the other two examples:
Climate change denyer - whilst dangerous for our planet this doesn't psychologically harm an individual - unlike suggesting they can chose their sexuality. So context is important. Expressing such a view should be challenged and not defended under freedom of speech.
Antivaxxers - you jump straight to jailing them. Why? Expressing that view should be challenged and not defended under freedom of speech.
Of course if death results then yes, they should be jailed:
This anti-vaxxer dad, convicted in the death of his son, is going to jail
Your view seems to be 'let them say what they want as this is freedom of speech - or you'll end up jailing them all'.
That feels like a pretty extreme position to take.
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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wizzstick
This is the biggest hole in your argument:
If you go up to somebody in the street and start shouting and swearing at them and calling them obscene names you should expect to be arrested. That has nothing to do with limiting your freedom of speech.
Racists would (and have) said that they can do this as under freedom of speech. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" and all that nonsense.
They are of course utterly wrong. Calling people names doesn't kill them, but is does cause psychological harm and that is why we won't permit this.
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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wizzstick
Personal abuse has nothing to do with this issue.
So personal abuse does limit freedom of speech?
I am convinced that the christian gospel is psychologically harmful.
What all of it? Every single element? Every doctrine?
Is there not a difference between statements/doctrines that aren't harmful (God is three persons in one) and statements that are harmful (Gays can change).
One has almost no possibility of being harmful.
The other does.
This is why that video has so may dislikes.
You seem to be taking an all or nothing approach. I would suggest that's pretty extreme. If a statement of belief is harmful (Gays can change) then yes if should be banned.
Think whatever you want - but that doesn't mean you're free to state it. That applies to religious statements as much as racist statements.
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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wizzstick
the law should not be used to limit people's right to hold and state stupid ideas.
And that is where I would add on the point about being harmful.
If a person states a stupid statement that causes harm then yes it should be stopped.
Calling an asian person a 'Paki' is both stupid and harmful. It will cause distress and a lot of hurt. I absolutely believe that whilst people can hold whatever stupid ideas they want, there are limits to what they can state.
This would apply to racist terms such as the one above.
Whilst people can hold whatever stupid ideas they want over gay people, there are limits to what they can state. And that includes the nonsensical and harmful idea that 'gays can change'.