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  Noah's ark once again. I hate beating a dead horse, but.

  by James Mixon in

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  the altitude problem.

  mt.

  everest today is 29042 feet high and i know some will say it.

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  ever since the writing of this fable

  Huh?

  So it's not true then?
  
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  Animals not meant to eat meat

  by Carl in

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  jw don't believe in evolution .

  how come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?

  sharks for instance have razor sharp pointy teeth these are not to eat vegetation .

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  How come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?

  Well quite! One JW theory is that God changed the animals post flood.

  Two problems with that.

  Dinosaurs like the T-Rex clearly ate meat. So God apparently felt it was ok for animals to kill in pre-flood times.

  But if you go with Old Hippies idea that they only ate dead animals (see my point above) then you have the problem that a loving creator thought that the best solution for the care of animals post Eden was to divide them into the hunter and the hunted. Despite the fear and suffering that results in the hunted (see nature programs of lions chasing gazelles who are clearly terrified.)

  God is love. Really?
  
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  Animals not meant to eat meat

  by Carl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw don't believe in evolution .

  how come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?

  sharks for instance have razor sharp pointy teeth these are not to eat vegetation .

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  wizzstick

  For eating dead animals?

  How would it distinguish between a sleeping animal and a dead animal?
  
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  Hello Everyone

  by Mozzie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.

  hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.

  i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.

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  If you want to wallow in self-pity, he's your man.

  Wow - so if Mozzie reads Ehrman's books he must want to wallow in self-pity?

  Nice.
  
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  Hello Everyone

  by Mozzie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.

  hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.

  i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.

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  wizzstick

  I truly feel sorry for you.

  You've spent years worrying about the JW's and God. I would encourage you to read more on the Bible. If that is not the word of God then, really, why worry anymore?
  

  Try and get hold of Bart D. Ehrman's books, Misquoting Jesus and Jesus, Interrupted.

  Then try Dan Barker's Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists.
  

  They will really help you.
  
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  The Kingdom—100 Years of Freemasonic Propaganda

  by jwdoctrine in

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  2. scandals

  the kingdom—100 years of freemasonic propaganda.

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  new post on http://jwdoctrine.com/the-kingdom-100-years-of-freemasonic-propaganda/ now connects pinky rings ,freemasonry and symbolism .....

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  Agree.

  Like the obsession with seeing things in images in the WT publications, this kind of thing makes some ex-JW's look bat shit crazy.
  
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  How did all these civilizations survive the flood?

  by losthobbit in

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  2. bible

  flood 2304 bc (http://creation.com/the-date-of-noahs-flood).

  neolithic 8500-1500 bc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_neolithic_cultures_of_china).

  egyption dynasty 4 2613 to 2494 bc, dynasty 5: 2494 to 2345 bc, dynasty 6: 2345 - 2181 bc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_ancient_egyptian_dynasties).

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  wizzstick

  So, as a result, we have spies who are deliberately lying to Moses and his people.

  And that is also what the WT says about them:

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003223
  
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  Am i reading this right...? The preaching work is done??

  by Nobodyspecial in

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  2. beliefs

  im sorry if this has been addressed, i have not seen any topics on this yet.. the wt for today seems to state, quiet plainly, that preaching work is done.

  para 14,15 the question asks:.

  "what proves that jehovahs witnesses have fulfilled jesus' prophecy with regard to the scope of the work?".

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  wizzstick

  Something must give within this year or next year at most.

  When we get to the end of 2017 and there is still no end in sight, will you continue to be a JW?

  Or will you finally pack it in?
  
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  JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube

  by alanv in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.

  of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.

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  wizzstick

  Why did you ignore all my other examples?

  For three reasons.

  1) They are taking us further and further from the OP and muddying a pretty simple argument - suggesting 'gay's can change' is wrong. Expressing that view should be challenged and not defended under freedom of speech. Disliking a video is a way of challenging this.
  

  2) Your first example:

  What if a gay man says his gay relationship is a choice? Should he be charged with a hate crime too?

  I've worked with a number of gay men who have all said that they have felt that way for their entire life. So unless you can provide an example of this then I'd suggest this is a strawman argument.

  3) Lastly the other two examples:

  Climate change denyer - whilst dangerous for our planet this doesn't psychologically harm an individual - unlike suggesting they can chose their sexuality. So context is important. Expressing such a view should be challenged and not defended under freedom of speech.
  

  Antivaxxers - you jump straight to jailing them. Why? Expressing that view should be challenged and not defended under freedom of speech.
  

  Of course if death results then yes, they should be jailed:
  

  This anti-vaxxer dad, convicted in the death of his son, is going to jail

  Your view seems to be 'let them say what they want as this is freedom of speech - or you'll end up jailing them all'.
  

  That feels like a pretty extreme position to take.
  
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  JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube

  by alanv in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.

  of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.

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  This is the biggest hole in your argument:

  If you go up to somebody in the street and start shouting and swearing at them and calling them obscene names you should expect to be arrested. That has nothing to do with limiting your freedom of speech.

  Racists would (and have) said that they can do this as under freedom of speech. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" and all that nonsense.

  They are of course utterly wrong. Calling people names doesn't kill them, but is does cause psychological harm and that is why we won't permit this.