It's a completely private group. It doesn't show up when people look at your profile.
They organise a number of meet up's and it's great for a UK centric look at JW-dom.
wizzstick
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Life update
by campaign of hate ini haven’t been on the forum for a few years, took a major break to sort my life / head out.. a lot happens in a few years!
is there any meet ups planned in the uk?.
hope everyone is doing well and look forward to getting stuck in..
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wizzstick
Let's not forget that it took over 2 years, just for the U.S copyright office to transfer it from Cynthia to Deb.
Really?
So that would have been in 2016, by which time Deborah's husband was very ill.
In that case I think she has done a remarkable job given the challenges she was facing at home.
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Evidently Ray Franz felt it was more important for his work to fall into the hands of his trusted friends
Makes sense to me.
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Do they have permission to reproduce the booklet from the copyright owner?
Again, from the link above:
The reason I have included this in Appendix C is because Raymond Franz had intended to include it in the Appendix of a future edition. That has now happened.
So what do you think?
By the way, is there a good reason for your cynicism?
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But at the same time think she hasn't handled the publication of the book very well? Which predates illness and death of her husband by years.
No it doesn't. Deborah states (emphasis mine):
Along my journey since working on re-publication of the book, I have endured the heartache of my husband’s declining health, and fight for his life. On May 11, 2017, my darling husband, Dan Dykstra lost his battle for his life and he died. He was not well for a very long time. The past two years of his life were especially hard.
Cynthia Franz died December 29th 2013.
Deborah's husband died in May 2017, and as per the above she says the previous 2 years were very hard. So that goes back to 2015. And before that he was also ill ('for a very long time').
So it's entirely possible that her husband was ill even when Cynthia died.
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From a reader's perspective however, the addition of an introduction from a Trinitarian, the great crowd booklet, and single pages from ISofCF in the appendix was not worth waiting 5 plus years. Was there some sort of misunderstanding that a new edition needed to be produced before it could be republished? I think the majority of people just wanted to read the original book as quickly as possible.
The Trinitarian point is moot. There is nothing in the prologue about the trinity.
The Great Crowd booklet has been added as this is what Ray Franz was going to do in a later edition.
Single pages from ISofCF in the appendix were added as a convenience to readers (presumably so you don't need to have both books in front of you).
We need to be mindful that Deborah Dykstra has been through a lot with her husbands years of ill health and subsequent death.
You can read her statement here.
Let's all agree that it's great to have CoC back.
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Why not simply republish the book?
For the reason Debra outlined in the video.
She now needs time to grieve her husband.
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Ugh out of stock already . I also do not see an ebook addition
Links to the Kindle edition:
Crisis of Conscience US Kindle edition
Crisis of Conscience UK Kindle edition
A new introduction written by a Trinitarian from the Watchman Foundation? I wonder what Ray Franz would have made of that.
I'm not keen on this either.
But, you can read his intro by using the Look Inside link on Amazon.
1) It's very short - 1 maybe 2 pages long.
2) There is nothing about the Trinity in it.
At the end of the day, Franz stayed a believer all his life so having an intro by another believer isn't a deal breaker for me.
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WT predicting smartphones back in the 20s?
by paradiseseeker ini've come across a jw friendly article about watchtower predicting smartphones in the 20s.. .
of course, in the comments section there are a lot of jws freaking out saying "there is no doubt that this is the only true organization!
", "thanks jehovah that used his faithful and discreet slave to tell us some useful information about the future!
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The Golden Age article reads more like the description of a mobile phone than a smartphone.
Whereas this article from 1909 (again quoting Tesla) reads more like a smartphone (and smartwatch).
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Matthew 24:34 not fulfilled in the first century
by Jules Saturn ini was discussing with an elder the generation teaching and telling him when jesus christ says in matthew 24:34 “truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.” he was referring to the generation from the first century in 33 ad and these events that were to take place took place with the destruction of jerusalem in 70 ad.
now the elder tells me to go back to a few verses to from verses 29-33 which read: .
“immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened,+ and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.+ 30 then the sign of the son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief,+ and they will see the son of man+ coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
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I think millions of people have been waiting for almost 2,000 years for this.
Earlier in Matthew 16: 28 he said:
Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here who will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his Kingdom.
And they all died.
Maybe...JC was a false prophet?