ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
???The GB has four men in their mid-ninties who are STILL scumbags. They have several others in their eighties who are STILL scumbags. And these ancient scumbags are grooming their younger members in all the finer points of being scumbags.???
Go ahead and assuage your conscience, Farkel, with all of these non sequiturs. Just because X is B does not mean that he should be treated with C. But if it makes you feel better . . .
"liberty is the right to do whatever the laws permit.
" .
baron de montesquieu
???... and if we don't feel free enough, we change the laws. I think of liberty as choosing and doing the right and good thing, yet not having a law to bind me to do so.???
In an ideal world, you would be right. But even Paul said that unrighteous men need law, not righteous ones. Law does not necessarily conflict with liberty either as even the Hebrew scriptures show us. The people of God in the Bible were free even thought they lived under law.
But my point is that liberty is not license. It can be defined in political, theological or natural terms. But being free does not mean being able to do what you want. No wonder Jean Paul Sartre wrote that we are condemned to be free.
ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
???I think the problem is that they're arrogant in the face of ignorance and guilt - that's a heck of a thing to have grown old with, and consider that others will be naturally peacable.???
Nothing you have said justifies disrecting an old person as such. You seem to emply a type of what is good for the goose argument. But you surely recognize the fallacious nature of such reasoning.
ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
Mr Step
???On the contrary Squire, if their age effects [sic] the validity of their decisions, and these decisions then lead to premature death, there is every reason to disresepct [sic] them. No conflation, the amount of time spent in the institution directly correlates to their age, it would would it not......lol???
Is their age affecting their decisions? Even if it is, I do not think that one should disrepect old age as such. Like I said, I think the pope is supporting a false religious system. He is getting old and his judgment is probably also affected. Yet I am not going to conflate old age with bad decisions or judgments that the pope may make. I can criticize the pope without castigating his advanced years. Do you see the point, sir?
???This is the viewpoint that many have on this Board, which leads them not to direspect all elderly people, only those who endanger life with their decisions.???
I do not believe that any older persons should be disrepected simply because they are old and make bad decisions. I can separate the two issues and condemn an old man's wrong actions without insulting him about irritable bowel syndrome or some gastric disorder he may or may not have.
ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
???There you go with that dub-I'll-apply-scripture-to-the-flesh thing again.???
What are you talking about?
ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
???Being the wrong side of fifty makes me somewhat sympathetic to your cause…lol It also has to be taken into account that eighty year old men, many institutionalized in Brooklyn since their teenage years, are making suspect life and death decisions for their adherents, a very worrying scenario which perhaps focuses the mind somewhat.???
I think that different issues are being conflated. Just because elderly men have spent their entire lives in Bethel and may have not been exposed to living in the world gives no one the reason to disrespect these men on the basis of their age. One does not have to conflate old age with the other issues.
I have issues with the pope. He is an elderly gentleman that makes vital decisions for the catholic church. I disagree with the pope and think he is wrong in a lot of theological areas but I respect him as an old person and fellow human. You will not hear me make comments about the pope's inability to chew his own food and such nonsense. Cannot some ex-jw show the same modicum of respect?
???Now I have answered your question, will you answer mine? Are you posting to this board under another name???
No I am not posting under another name.
ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
???Ithink that as soon as you hit 70, you should be melted down and fed to squirrels.???
"Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD."
Lveiticus 19:31
ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
???i]..he transmits to his anointed ones the necessary information, and if the instructions sent out are wrong, then the responsibility is to the Lord and not to the local service committee. WT May 15, 1937 page 153, paragraph 31[/i]
So how can someone be asked to respect that. It's as blasphemous as anything that could be found on the face of the earth (and below).???
I would have to read that statement in its full context to avoid imputing wrong movtives to the governing body. But even if what you say is true, how does it follow that critics in this place should harp on the old age and digestion problems of the governing body. Gerontracies are ancient human institutions. Why harp on the fact that the governing body is old?
"liberty is the right to do whatever the laws permit.
" .
baron de montesquieu
"Liberty is the right to do whatever the laws permit."
Baron De Montesquieu
ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body.
the speak abusively about the oold men in brooklyn.
why the antipathos against the men in brooklyn?
Ex-jws in this place often berate the gerontological state of the governing body. The speak abusively about the oold men in Brooklyn. Why the antipathos against the men in Brooklyn? Why focus on the old age of the governing body and how hard it is for them to swallow food when criticizing them? Can you not separate the advanced age of the body from your criticisms of their doctrinal stance?
Most cultures throughout human history have encouraged the young to show the utmost respect for their elders. The ageism that is manifested in this place is disgusting to comforter. You people contemplate what I am saying and mend your ways. You may criticize jw beliefs and practices. But you have no right to be anti-gerontological in ya orientation.
