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  Christmas...pagan? or non-pagan?

  by FreedomFrog in

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  i just read a thread where one of the posters was saying christmas is not pagan.

  from my research and what i remember reading up on it, it was taken from the pagans.. let me explain.

  first, i apologize because i researched this about 4 years ago and i don't have all of my research material at hand.

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  MadTiger

  Lloyd Braun:
  
  I have two word for you: context clues.
  
  Gift-giving in the context of Christmas. Evergreen trees and shrubs used in the CONTEXT of Christmas. MmmmKay?
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  Are You Watching Football Today?

  by snowbird in

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  if you are, which game?

  i'm watching dallas/st louis.. sylvia.

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  MadTiger

  How about a compromise?
  
  T.O. doesn't have a great game, and we win.
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  Are You Watching Football Today?

  by snowbird in

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  if you are, which game?

  i'm watching dallas/st louis.. sylvia.

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  Cleveland is whooping BodyMore, MurderLand and I will watch the Dallas Cowboy ram BBQ later.
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  what makes a cult a cult?

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  inspired by recent events here on jwd.

  what makes a cult a cult and whose definition matters most?.

  from a google search:.

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  One of the key areas is what is the official response for those who choose to leave.
  
  Circling wagons, covering up, spying on ex-members, etc. == cult behavior. Leave people the hell alone.
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  A spiritual journey - but how?

  by Awakened07 in

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  2. friends

  as i've said a billion (well - at least ten, lol) times here before, i consider myself an atheist that wouldn't mind believing in a god if sufficient grounds to do so were presented to me.. as such, i have been toying with the idea of going on a spiritual journey, to see what i could find.

  i was for a time thinking of making a thread here - in all seriousness and sincerity - where i would let you take part in several (possibly, unless i found what i was looking for right away) such steps, in which i would first 'test' the episcopalian (and some other christians') approach and sincerely ask jesus to enter my heart as my saviour and so on.

  and that if i indeed experienced something from it, so be it - i would have to accept it and live by it.

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  MadTiger

  If you sincerely want to get on a path, and go wherever it leads, regardless of past notions, you will do well to simply look at the proof of the natural world around us.
  
  It is enough proof for most. It may be just a snack for you, but it's a place to start.
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  My Dating horror= You can't have coffee at the mall without a chaperon???

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  being a pioneer/servant for years, i thought i was very responsible.

  when dating a sister whom i later married, i read every publication on courtship the society had.

  i then spoke to an elder whom i thought was "resonable" and we agreed as the publications say: "a couple can meet together in a public place, when courting, without a chaperon.

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  Solid principles gone horribly cancerous.
  
  The history of the organization in a nutshell.
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  Were You Ever Hopeful That A New Elder Would Make Things Different?

  by minimus in

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  did you believe that just maybe, if there was a new elder appointed in the hall, that things might be different?

  i remember hearing how happy people were when i first became an elder.

  they would say, "we need new blood!

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  Elders know that it can help. That's why they block certain individuals from being appointed -- they smell their doom.
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  FOR DUMMIES: Jehovah Has ALWAYS Used an Organization. Not!!

  by Open mind in

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  2. beliefs

  how many times have you heard this from a jw?:.

  "jehovah has always worked through an organization!

  now i've heard plenty of rebuttals of this on jwd, but last night i thought of another way to look at it.

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  Very good thread.
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  grateful to my Elders..No talks, no FS time, no privledges....no problem!

  by oompa in

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  so one year of lots of questions and showing doubts, and missing quite a few meetings but still going out in service, doing mics, reading, hall projects...then i get the new light from society regarding the letter i sent them (wow, stunned me, blew me away) and i let them know how i felt about it and i quit the ministry after 40 active years.

  nobody says anything about this, no counsel, no will you go out with us on saturday.

  not a single "were is your time for the month" phone call.

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  Don't forget: it is highly probable that the elders received a letter around the same time as you did.
  
  "Watch that guy. No privileges, and check on who he is talking to, spreading this information to."
  "If we cannot turn him to the Dark Side...."
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  Christmas...pagan? or non-pagan?

  by FreedomFrog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just read a thread where one of the posters was saying christmas is not pagan.

  from my research and what i remember reading up on it, it was taken from the pagans.. let me explain.

  first, i apologize because i researched this about 4 years ago and i don't have all of my research material at hand.

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  MadTiger

  Fact:
  
  Christmas and most holidays (hell, even Groundhog's Day!) are pagan.
  Trees, gift-giving, caroling -- all of pagan origin.
  
  (did you know that the St. Nicholas Santa Claus is modeled after was the patron saint of, among others, pawnbrokers?)
  
  If you celebrate in sincerity, you have not sinned, though. Unless you are an active JW. Then, a pox on you.