Welcome Drew Sagan
Posts by TopHat
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Fist Post
by drew sagan infirst post
just wanted to introduce myself to the group.
i've followed this site for a while, but never have contributed before.
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Attn: XJW Community--Let's not just complain about WT-Let's be ACTIVISTS!!
by AndersonsInfo inthere are many ways that we can actively protest against the watchtower's unjust and damaging policies.
here is one example of a method that is proving successful.
writing a letter is time-consuming for the author, but the results are worth it.
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TopHat
It seems to me that WT is doing the attacking. Note in practically every issue of the Watchtower magazine they most emphatically warn JWs not to listen to anybody who states a negative fact about the organization. They have become almost psychotic about this now and have set up a climate of fear among their members. The Watchtower Society is the attacker and they have had us on the defensive for too long. It's time we went on the offensive. I agree with every word you said Barbara...The Watchtower is the attacker...I been telling my JW friends and my son who is a JW the same thing. This the answer I got last night from my son.
the biggest problem Satan and his human pawns have
when they try to attack the only organization
zealously preaching God's Word throughout the world is
that with all the money he and his minions claim
Christ's flock has, still the fact remains that
NO HUMAN IS PROFITTING
no member of Christ's flock is getting rich off the
flock, buying mansions and fancy cars and
air-conditioned houses for their dogs
The best thing Satan and his human followers who are
trying so desperately to stop the worldwide preaching
of the Kingdom can come up with is...
the elders get first class seats to conventions
how weak Satan!
I dont think there are very many in the flock who
would have a problem with the elders getting first
class flights to conventions
tell Satan I will be deleting all future emailsI don't why he is babbling about A/C dog houses and first class seats..that was not part of our conversation. Mainly it was about the Pedophiles in the org. and child abuse.
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**MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org
by sf inthis is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.
alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.
however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.
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TopHat
buttt
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Attn: XJW Community--Let's not just complain about WT-Let's be ACTIVISTS!!
by AndersonsInfo inthere are many ways that we can actively protest against the watchtower's unjust and damaging policies.
here is one example of a method that is proving successful.
writing a letter is time-consuming for the author, but the results are worth it.
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TopHat
But then wouldn't they accuse one of attacking the WTS or JWs? At least that is my experience when I try to explain why I no longer want to associate with the Watchtower organization. I then explain that it is not an attack but a fact.
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My Accomplishments As A JW Of Which I'm Proud
by Nate Merit ini never even came close to making a convert.. .
i never donated a dime to the wtbts.. .
when i was involved, i was involved.
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TopHat
- As far as hypocrisy, just look at the hypocrisy with Mexico and Malawi. Malawi JWs weren't allowed to buy a 50 cent political party card in a one-party state! Yet in Mexico the JWs could buy out (bribe) government officials to stay out of prison.
-ithinkisee
You might not think it a big deal, but imagine if it was your wife or daughter that was raped in Malawi. Imagine knowing that IF ONLY you were in Mexico everything would be fine and you could go enjoy a Tecate or Dos Equis after your morning in field service.I still cry to this day over the Malawi brothers and sisters and you put it in words that brought more tears flooding out of my eyes.
That one story alone is enough to convine me, the WTS is an Evil organization.
- As far as hypocrisy, just look at the hypocrisy with Mexico and Malawi. Malawi JWs weren't allowed to buy a 50 cent political party card in a one-party state! Yet in Mexico the JWs could buy out (bribe) government officials to stay out of prison.
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My Accomplishments As A JW Of Which I'm Proud
by Nate Merit ini never even came close to making a convert.. .
i never donated a dime to the wtbts.. .
when i was involved, i was involved.
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TopHat
No they do not. Show me in any article where they promote behavior such as lying backstabbing gossiping and hypocracy!
D.
The WTS do it all the time....Just read the January 15th 2006 Watchtoer. Look at how they throw out good brothers and sisters just bacuse they question some of the back-handed doctrines of GB.
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My Accomplishments As A JW Of Which I'm Proud
by Nate Merit ini never even came close to making a convert.. .
i never donated a dime to the wtbts.. .
when i was involved, i was involved.
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That is what being a christian is about. Following in Jesus steps. What did he dedicate his whole life doing? What did he teach his disciples to do? What did his disciples do after Jesus had died and gone to heaven? Preach, teach, and made DISCIPLES.
D.
Yes, That is true D....However Jesus didn't protect Pedophilies and hurt children like the WTS.
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why cant they see how cruel they are??
by Cordelia inwhy just because i am dfed (march) can my family and all the friends ive ever known tell me i am dead to them?.
why have i missed two important family weddings and been told i ruined them coz everyone was upset?.
why if ihave tried to please them and tried once to get reinstated and now finally felt i have to be true to myself have i caused such pain all over again?.
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Cordelia, to answer your question: Conditioning.
Most Jws are conditioned to answer an exJw by repeating the answer from a text book of the WTS because if you ask them all the same question you get the same answer word for word. In my case they accuse me of attacking the JWs when all I did was ask a question and show proof. Why does the Governing Body and the WTS protect Pedophlies?
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What is orthodox Christianity?
by Justin inwe frequently contrast what jehovah's witnesses believe with orthodox christianity (or what they call "christendom").
but what does orthodox christianity look like if allowed to stand on its own, not defending itself from outside attack?
the archbishop of canterbury (rowan williams) recently gave his own description to a group of non-christians - his audience being at the islamic university in islamabad.
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Nate, I think you are wrong about the Apostles:
Most scholars argue that 1 Cor 15: 3-7 in the context of Acts 1:25-26 indicates that being a witness to the resurrected lord was a (if not THE) key criteria for being called an Apostle. If this is true, there may have been as many as 500 Apostles. The texts is as follows:
For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures; that he was buried; that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures; that he appeared to Kephas, then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. After that he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. Last of all, as to one born abnormally, he appeared to me. For I am the least of the apostles -
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why cant they see how cruel they are??
by Cordelia inwhy just because i am dfed (march) can my family and all the friends ive ever known tell me i am dead to them?.
why have i missed two important family weddings and been told i ruined them coz everyone was upset?.
why if ihave tried to please them and tried once to get reinstated and now finally felt i have to be true to myself have i caused such pain all over again?.
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TopHat
They will not listen to you just as my JW son will not listen to me....They are "Parrots of a mind control cult" They only know what to repeat from the WTS and no more. They do NOT think for themsleves.