when the sun finally burns its last burn and becomes a dying star, what will happen to all the jehovah's witnesses who are expecting to live forever on the earth?
Well, scripture has already set a precedent. There will comme a person called adama who will get instructions to built a gigant ship (spaceship) and then he will start warning everybody of the impeding disaster (preacher of rightiousness)and then they will go out to space and search for a place like earth.
eh.......
.....Battlestar Gallactica..... :-)
cheers
Borgia
the dalai lama said that the basic creed of all religions comes down to this: love god/love each other.
what are some other creeds that you think all religions should adopt and why?
lilly
How about: share a beer so now anf then....? Cheers Borgia
does the following article now explain in a great deal what could have been the origin of the baptism?.
danny.
from new scientist:.
So it seems: request for a clean conscience - Peter
cheers
Borgia
well i setup an account at reexaminer.org eager to make a contribution but find that uploading was disabled (for now anyway).. so here's this year's supposedly hard-hitting expose on "false religion" aka kingdumb news 37. i hope these links work for all of you.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5070/kn37p1wf7.jpg.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4599/kn37p2rn0.jpg.
Really puke alert!
VM and wasanelderonce: There is special paper available for inkjetprinters to make this altered text into a nice T-shirt. Maybe I´ll wair one to the next meeting!Wouldn't that be a sight!
Cheers
Borgia
having been one of jehovah's witnesses for the better part of fourteen years and then having left the organization after having discovered the watchtower society's involve- ment with the united nations has left me second guessing myself.
often times, i ask myself why?-why?
did i not listen to my "gut feelings" when i held certain doubts about the organization?
Welcom to the Board, The Wanderer.
Gutfeeling. Inuitively you may be able tag the smell as fishy. It is our reasoning that playa games with us. I often have the same thing. But in cases where I ´ve listened to my gutfeeling, well, things turned out to be ok. The best thing is, it feels good!
Learning to listen and to train your gutfeeling is something ongoing. So, retrospectively, it´s okay to learn a lesson or two, but then, move on. I spent my about 36 years in the org and spent it by the book. do i regret the things I´ve done? To a degree, yes. The things I am aiming at here are the people I "helped into the truth". If I had known better, back then...but I didn´t know better.....So, apart from a occasional feeling of fading discomfort, I learned alot from this experience. Although, it has not totally left my system, reading and speaking to other people sharpens the mind to think outside the box.
Wish you all the best on your journey.
cheers
>p>Borgia
well folks, got another elders visit this past weekend.
what true fun.
it lasted quite a long time and went absolutely nowhere.
Drew,
Good teamplaying! Carry on, dude.
Cheers
Borgia
well folks, got another elders visit this past weekend.
what true fun.
it lasted quite a long time and went absolutely nowhere.
D
here's what i'm putting out there.
every jw has a list of teachings that they know 'prove' they are the only true religion.
while they turn to many things in order to prove their points, i have noticed a special tendancy to turn to just a few things in the end.
Blast it. The format did not work.
Sorry.
Cheers
Borgia
here's what i'm putting out there.
every jw has a list of teachings that they know 'prove' they are the only true religion.
while they turn to many things in order to prove their points, i have noticed a special tendancy to turn to just a few things in the end.
Drew,
When taking an approach like that, the WT made it clear that religion is a brand. Use our soap because it make your, clothes, carpet, car, theeth, dishes, white, clean, the lot.
There are several Christian Groups who claim that believing in the trinity is essential to 1) being a genuine Christian an 2) receiving a status of being rescued
The message the NT conveys that it is possible to be reconcilled with God through one name only.
Basically, the NT is very abiguious about the matter. If the matter would be of such enourmous interest, wouldn´t God have provided a more clearer view of the matter?
Please, read Philipians 2:5-11. Please, take special note of verse 6. To a JW this text is clear cut. However. Reading this scripture from the ground text a total different picture emerges. Here´s why:Phi 2:6 ?? e? µ??f? ?e?? ?pa???? ??? a?pa?µ?? ???sat? t? e??a? ?sa ?e?
hos en morphe theou huparcho ou hapagmos hegomai ho eimai isa theo
the in form god came into existence/exists not snatching/robbery deems the to be equal god
Now, please check the words the WT has inserted to convey their arian-like stand.........
Who[, although, he was] existing in God’s form[, gave] no consider[ation to a] seizure[, namely that he should] be equal [to] God.
If we omit the added words:
who existing in God’s form, no consider seizure be equal God.
To what conclusion would a JW now come to (apart from being apaostate, fals religio, bla bla. )? Indeed, most could not come to a conclusion.
Please, note that the standard JW reply, does not adress this NWT translation biase. Instead they attack the translators who had the idea of translating robbery/snatching with holding on to. Which is not the point of discussion but with reasoning on the scriptures one does not have to reason at all.
I did not show this to invoke a trinity discussion but to just show that the bible is not very clear in this matter and JW have a trenmendous unfounded biase. May be this may help them to overcome the issue.
Cheers
Borgia
http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/
So, WT did not have spiritual sex with the harlot .......petting maybe? dry F. or was it a finger excercise?
3W, you still maintain the fact that nothing happened. something did happen but you are just to blind to see.
Poor chap. You must be head over heels about the WT.
Well, I found a text that you may find very interesting. Please, open your bible at Proverbs chapter 30 and lookup the vers 10. Here it reads:
"So is the way of an adulterous woman: she eats, and wipes her mouth, and says, I have done no evil."
See, 3W, you´re absolutely right. WT has done no evil.
Cheers
Borgia
