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  BBC Radio 5 Live recording and transcript

  by IT Support in

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  2. medical

  thanks for your call, peter.

  should a doctor be able to override a patients wishes?.

  lets take just one more call before we let you go.

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  Borgia

  It Support,

  THX for posting this. A friend of mine started to mention it the other day and I had no clue as to what had happened.

  By the way, quite eggregious how this HLC fellow tries to beat around the bush!

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  This WT article makes me mad.... this is evil

  by dawg in

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  2. scandals

  it's bad enought that young people in the wt have to sell magizines, risk shunning when they find out the truth about the gb... but this article really makes me laugh and angry at the same time.

  the part that made me the maddest was when the father said he "conquered" the habit, lying bastard!

  http://www.watchtower.org/e/200611a/article_01.htm.

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  Borgia

  2. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company.

  3. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, YOU MUST BREAK OFF THEIR FRIENDSHIP. Never associate with other people having the same weakness.

  This mormon stuff is even better. You find company and ask:

  do you gallop the maggot?

  Excuse me?

  Are you a wanker?

  You deserve a good spanking, boy!

  No, I mean, I have an issue with it and if you have an issue with it too, then , yes, I can't stay here for the fear of galloping off together.

  Are you nuts?

  No, a mormon.

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  A changing trend in Watchtower teaching??????

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for the last year or so i have been sensing a change in the wording of articles in the.

  watchtower, awake, and km's but i could not put my finger on it until i read the.

  november 2007 our kingdom ministry.

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  Borgia

  Ian, you took the words right out of my mouth.

  Notice how they apologize for not doing much........begs the question: what do they really do? Authorize the the issuance of 2 separate WT's? Wow, that must have been dilligent prayerful labor in the lord.

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Are An Illogical People & They Should Be Embarrassed!

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  question a witness in a very logical manner about their view of blood transfusions and blood fractions and see what you'll get.. ask a witness where in the bible it states that you can't talk to a disfellowshipped family member unless he or she lived in your home.. ask a witness why they need 2 witnesses to establish that a child has been molested but they don't need 2 witnesses to establish that a spouse has been unfaithful and that the accuser may now be free to "scripturally" remarry.. have a jehovah's witness prove to you that filling out a service report is necessary for a christian to have god's approval.. can you think of other proofs that the witness religion is totally illogical??

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  Borgia

  Ask them about the universal issues:

  Before God confused the languages people enjoyed one government, one language without any problems. Since people have become divided over many issues. Who brought the great divide? God. Why? Because he did not want humans to get to that point again otherwise they would be able to reach any goal they set out to reach. Who said God was jeolous......

  Question: If this is to be accepted as a genuine part of history that has been contained in Gods inerrant word, what remains of the question: Can people succesfully rule thermselves without God? (answer: nothing: that question has already been answered by the good Lord himself in Gen 11 and it seems the FDS has missed out on that one. Can they? No they cannot because God prevented that from happening). What I got were blanc stares and one even said: "let's try to find what the slave says about this subject". ......

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Wow, it just clicked. I'm agnostic!

  by marmot in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i honestly don't think i've ever been this happy in my life.

  of course, i've got bipolar ii so i might just be edging on a bout of hypomania but i'm good at taking my med so this could very well be genuine!

  i'm so excited at the new look on life this has given me.

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  Marmot,
  I pleasant and breath inducing experience, is it not ? Welcome to the best part of your life!
  Cheers
  Borgia
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-26-07 WT Study (SIN-HOLY SPIRIT)

  by WT Comments in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men," said jesus christ, "but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven.

  " (1 john 5:16) but is it left to the one who has sinned seriously to determine whether he has committed "a sin that does incur death"?.

  (psalm 51:11) however, if we are deeply grieved over a sin we have committed, it is very likely that we are truly repentant.

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  I always enjoy reading your comments Blondie.

  While being on the convention I picked up a signal about being apostate and the unforgivable sin. I thought I had not clearly heard it. Now it is, although a bit concealed, in print: refusing to accept spiritual light = sinning against holy spirit! Of course that has a bearing on all the flip flop doctrines!

  How peculiar: using your own GOD-GIVEN-GREY-CELLS to construct, study hypothesize and conclude and differentiate from the WTS-BS = sinning against HS.

  They have already set the stage back in 2005 when the new org back came to light. Now it looks as though it's time to enforce that. I have the feeling that we are going to have a lot of "fun" as of January first 2008.

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Transcript from DC audio: "The Superiority of Being Taught By Jehovah"

  by LiveLife in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  almost entirely transcribed from the audio provided by fading away (thanks, fading away!!).

  i couldn't bear to type out all of one experience, you'll have to listen.. the audio link: education talk from follow the christ dc.

  the superiority of of being taught by jehovah.

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  Borgia

  I noticed some mistakes in conjugation: we was; you was....

  I can see how his education of, say up until 12th grade, has helped him to develop a clear sense of speech...

  And I do not even want to go into his ability to think logically........How pretty a waste.....The Wt is getter better by the day....

  Smiles and cheers

  Borgia
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  machiavellian a word that could have been invented for the borg leadership.

  by edmond dantes in

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  i happened to come across the word machiavellian.heard it plenty of times but never really knew what it meant.it's an adjective and sums up the jw leadership like no other word.it means as follows ; .

  elaborately cunning ; scheming, unscrupulous,deceitful, shrewd, crafty,wily,foxy, tricky,perfidious,nefarious,treacherous,sneaky .. well i guess that just about covers it.unless anyone can come up with anymore.. .

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  Edmund,

  quite an analogy! Held by Baron Danglars.....something to think about......it was misinformation that brought Danglars down.....

  If you want to obtain a free copy or something, try "project gutenberg" or google books search for "the prince".

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  Who I am....

  by truthsetsonefree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those interested i have put together a small page on yahoo 360 about myself.

  for any interested it is http://360.yahoo.com/isaac_carmignani and i can be reached via the mailbox there.

  it has nothing in it about the jws because i want to leave that part of me in my past.

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  Borgia

  Hi Isaac,

  Every man dies. Not every man truly lives.

  I like that one.

  Cheers

  Borgia
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  machiavellian a word that could have been invented for the borg leadership.

  by edmond dantes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i happened to come across the word machiavellian.heard it plenty of times but never really knew what it meant.it's an adjective and sums up the jw leadership like no other word.it means as follows ; .

  elaborately cunning ; scheming, unscrupulous,deceitful, shrewd, crafty,wily,foxy, tricky,perfidious,nefarious,treacherous,sneaky .. well i guess that just about covers it.unless anyone can come up with anymore.. .

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  Borgia

  Hi Edmond,

  Interesting name......spent some time in the borg, no? Did you also escape in a body bag from the chateau?

  Machiavelli wrote quite some interesting books. The one: Il principe, has already bveen mentioned and based on that book the expression machiavellian is used.

  It must be said though that Machiavelli wrote that book as a....stander by, as just watching the events unfold...describing what he has seen without labeling it with moral considerations. Something is good or bad in the sense of appropriate to achieve a goal...or not. I believe nowadays we would call that...professional. In that sense, yes, the term scrupulous could be used.

  On the other hand he has written a book on the florentine republic as well as on the art of war.

  Whether or not a person's moral gets in the way of achieving a goal was beyound his purpose. I would recommend you read it. It is an eyeopener. And ......he really has a point......it is the way the world is.......with or without a bill of rights. In that sense you may want to reflect on Jesus parable of the unfaithful steward who got sacked but showed a remarkable sense of practicle wisdom.....

  Cheers

  Borgia