There was also some speculation years ago about the high priest's costume since his hat is simular in appearance to a mushroom.
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If raised JW - or in while young - how strict were your parents?
by Jamelle ini'm just curious to know where my parents register on the scale of strictness...
growing up, i felt absolutely smothered by my parents (mostly my mother).
the things i couldn't do were above and beyond the limitations put on the other young people in our hall.
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Cartoons not allowed to watch! lol
Casper the Ghost (for obvious reasons lol, theres no such thing as ghosts only demons.)
Romper Room 50's childerns show not allowed to watch becuse "when the lady looks into the looking glass and talks to little billy and all her viewers out in TV Land shes contacting demons.
David and Goliath claymation cartoons, not allowed becuse they where funded or produced by the luthern church. lol
Gumby and Pokey series claymation cartoons same as above.
Taboo TV Shows
Rod Sterlings Night Gallery was probably on the top of the list hehehe my brother used to love that show and anytime mom and dad were not around play it any how lol. -
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How's this for shock and awe? In Malawi, JW's were raped and murdered because they refused to purchase political party cards. (You remember that era, I'm guessing) The Watchtower told the brothers in Malawi that buying the card would be taking a political stand, violating neutrality. So they obeyed and died.
Firstly I would like to say that I feel for anyone that was murdered or raped or the familys of them and would like to make a couple points and share a first hand experience with you. hehehehe (wow I still remember kingdom 133t$peak) lol
1) Have you ever been to mexico?
Some time ago my (sibling) was taken to jail in mexico for partying a little too hard while at hussong's cantina. The mexican police arrested him and took him to mexican PRISON not a regluar jail seems he had broken some arcane law that was a major offense. The ambassador to mexico called my house and well the bottom line is that we flew down there and essentially met with a (extortionist) I mean lawyer he says to us come up with 5,000 cash to give to the court (I mean bribe the judge) or my sibling gets 25 years in mexican prison. Seems the mexican goverment at that point in time there was so corrupt this transaction happend within 15 mins and my brother was out. All in open court as if it was not bribery or the same thing as bribery. so without knowing the details about how EXACTLY the transaction happend I would in fact say that my experience is that the mexican govt at that time only would except bribes. thats their system from what experienced thats just how the mexican goverment operates. So I can directly understand how the brothers would be faced with payoffs everyone is on the take in mexico you even have to bribe people at the mexican DMV to get your car registered lol. (this bit of info mite clarify to people around the world the situation comparing the differences of the govts)
2) Have you ever been to Malawi?
I have no idea how their govt operates but it could be a completely different situation. Some senarios that come to mind are that they could possibly use a political card to track and kill or rape more JW's.
3) Have you ever held a political card? if so please tell me about how it works "but remember that information would only apply to your govt or area that the cards a valid authority."
Thanks for your reply tho but it was not the SHOCK and AWE that I am looking for. -
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Hi AlmostAtheist, Cellist, free will :) thanks for replying to my post :)
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I was a JW for over 20 years and I did not leave because I did anything wrong or because I wanted to persue some kind of wrongdoing.
Thats a very interesting opener, although it leave's open the fact that! 'are any of us persuing wrongdoing?' this is one of my biggest downfalls lol trouble always somehow seems to find me. hehehe
but it was obvious that the STATUS and BANK ACCOUNTS of the appointees were what REALLY determined their appointments
This really doesn't bother me so much for some reason :) and on another note I could careless if I was invited to handle the mic's lol or not. I do remember helping to clean the hall up but it never seemed like a big deal power struggle or a reason to feel resentful about it.
'brotherly love' is totally fake. These people would rather knock on the doors of strangers all day long rather than help out a fellow JW who is sick, elderly or in need simply because they cannot report the time they spend in helping one another.
This has been the not been something I experienced recently my father passed away. and for the last few months a brother came by my mothers house read the bible talked about things. They even actually disscussed where we could find each other in paradise. My father will be climbing trees.. so at least I do have something to think about when my turn comes.. my father also had over 300 visitors the last few days he had over 400 people at his funeral and I am pretty positive most loved him. ALthough a biggy happend there my cousin came. but guess what shes DA and I got a picture perfect view of "SHUNNING" which was not part of the truth while I was still attending but became pretty much the BIGGEST part that I still do not aggree with that came into effect after or while I was fading out of attending the meetings. SHUNNING is TERRIBLE I cant bring myself to do it and it rips apart familys. I guess SHUNNING, and DEALING WITH SHUNNING is one reason I am posting up...
Mr. Franz wrote the book to let people know what is REALLY going on within this organization (and it doesn't have much to do with God's holy spirit or direction).
This is what I would like to know before reading the book :) what really is going on? is it the NGO-UN thingy? humm who hasn't been taken in by tricky stuff like that the internet companys AOL free 1000 minutes cd or made mistakes like that or email address phishing? the doctrine? 1914? I can even allow myself to belive them to keep the dream going not to loose my family and to see my father again (in his treehouse!!!!). I really need some SHOCK and AWE though to let my dream of seeing my parents again after they have passed driftaway so easily. -
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I have seen these books mentioned around the internet here and on amazon bookseller. I dont see anyone really screaming out about some block busting revelations about how the organization is so wrong. I would consider reading it but it seems like there mite not be much revelation there just because no one seems to qoute it or say why its such a ground breaking book. Please enlighten me? What was the most interesting thing you took away from it?
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I was raised in the truth. Both my parents where devout wittnesses. My father recently passed away and I have been going through major struggles in life including divorce etc. Living out in the world... and loosing so much has caused me to re examine faith and what it means. fortunatly or unfortunatly for me (unfortunately during my youth I rebelled against the truth which took a huge toll on me via shunning and other things) but fortunately I did not succumb to the pressures to get baptised without finding out about faith for my self first, I am kinda glad that I relized that I was not ready or mature enough to understand what it meant and would only be doing it to please those around me and to keep from being cast out of there lifes. I am not 100% sure if my not being baptised any activites here mite or mite not be considered "apostate" I dont have any hard feelings or bitterness for the organization just researching and seeing for myself all sides.
So basically I am searching for what being a good person is all about what faith is or is not "too me" and how to walk that delicate line with whats left of my family. -
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Hi, legolas I accidentaly created the same tread twice... forward over to my new tread.. nice to meet you as well.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/100715/1.ashx
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Hi everyone :)
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Hi everyone!