you have under-hyped your news! this disappoints me!
This is honestly the best laugh I've had all day. And why I love this site.
Thanks guys, for keeping it real!!!
Poppy xx
sorry...there are just so many threads related to the "big news", reaction to the big news, and lastly reaction to the reaction to the big news...just couldn't help myself.. how about some fluff...just for a few minutes.
fluff can be good.. so, whatcha all doing today?
xmas shopping?
you have under-hyped your news! this disappoints me!
This is honestly the best laugh I've had all day. And why I love this site.
Thanks guys, for keeping it real!!!
Poppy xx
do some of you expect?!?!.
i am extremely disappointed to read some people's comments about the latest news.
it is one thing to express and opinion, perhaps that you think it isn't as big as you imagined (one wonders what you imagined) but it is another to be downright insulting to people who have put a lot of time and effort into this.. get real.
I think (for what it's worth!) that nobody slagged off the people who brought the news, mainly the manner it was built up to be so HUGE. and actually.. although it is important, it wont change anything in the organisation, apart from maybe their legal policy on blood. I for one was dissapointed when I read it, just a personal opinion, and I dont think all this bottom licking that's going on is necessary. We are adults, we are here because we disagreed with a massive brainwashing organisation and got out... so quite rightly we are sceptics, critics and like to question EVERYTHING. I can see both sides of the argument, but not the need to blast someone for giving their opinion if it's different to your own, we have.. or should have stepped very far away from that.
Poppy x
i am a bit nervous making a reply.
i find it a bit challenging to gather my thoughts and express them in the written forum, but her goes!
i have been coming to this site for years.
Personally I also like hearing both sides, and the fact that often when I read the 'debates' I can clearly see the flaws in the JW argument just cement my ever growing non-faith. I think this site would be very boring without ones who can put across the JW point of view and have it torn to shreds!!
Poppy x
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i'm going to print this out for my own reference.. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
Thanks for that one Scully, found it very interesting, also the 'atrocity' section on the site.
Poppy
hi everyone, i have tried the search function (honest!
) but cant find the posts that i know are here.
tonight in the book study they were talking about daniel using gods name and i remembered reading somewhere that the jws put it in the nwt where it wasn't used.
Thank you!!
ok long story short i was baptized at 17 (because i felt pressured into it), and i was df about 2yrs ago i believe (i'm 27 now).
i wasn't at the final meeting, or any meeting about my dfing.
i had an elder call me twice at work and tell me that there was meeting that night.
Another welcome!! I'm fairly new here myself, but can SO understand and empathise with how you feel right now. There are highs and lows, the lows when you feel so cheated out of what you could have been and done.. but the highs when you realise you are still young (ish in my case!) have so much living to do and now are free to do whatever you choose. It's a very confusing and emotional journey, but it does get better, I cant tell you how bright the light gets every day round here on this board. Stay, post, and realise that you dont have to quantify anything just at the moment, just live and enjoy each breath.
Poppy xxx
it's been many years now that it might have had any relevance but nowadays when i enter our local shopping mall, i still manage to get shunned!.
it got me thinking, don't they see how stupid they look?.
look, the dubs are a minority, for heaven's sake!
I had lunch today with one of my old JW friends and was talking to her about her brother who is long time disfellowshipped (ie 15 years). I had seen him out and had a chat with him. She said how wrong I was and how he would never come back etc.. so I asked her if her son (now 13) was disfellowshipped would she walk past him in the street and ignore him, and she said yes she would because it was the only way he would return... I just dont get why they dont see, the way to get someone to return is to make them feel loved and welcome!! I How wrong it is to treat people that we once loved and were close to as WORSE than ones we dont even know.. And I'm ashamed of myself for once acting like this myself. However I think it's totally not right to try and embarass the dubs into speaking to you, after all you were once there, you know why they're doing it, many of them dont enjoy it any more than you do, they just think it's the right thing to do!!
poppy
hi everyone, i have tried the search function (honest!
) but cant find the posts that i know are here.
tonight in the book study they were talking about daniel using gods name and i remembered reading somewhere that the jws put it in the nwt where it wasn't used.
hi everyone, I have tried the search function (honest!) but cant find the posts that I know are here. Tonight in the book study they were talking about Daniel using Gods name and I remembered reading somewhere that the JWs put it in the NWT where it wasn't used. So I went to the back of the translation ( I HATE using that bible now, I just want to get my other versions out to compare, but daren't do that in public!) Anyway, I was readin the section about where they had put in the name in the new Testament.. and it suddenly hit me that these people ..ie matthew, mark, luke, etc, were with Jesus day in day out. If he talked about his fathers name, why would they not write it down? Why would Jesus not use it? If he wanted us to use it, he would have been saying it in every sentence.. Anyway, I really would like to find some posts about this with the information about what the original greek says and how it has been changed by the WTS. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance!
Poppy x
i just got a major shock.
i can't believe the new levels of cruelty possible within families who are jws.. a friend on this board who i've known since i was a baby practically has managed to get me a picture of my little sister who i haven't seen for 8 years - the one who i've mentioned my dad said was working on the bethel quick build team.
the one who i've described my fears that she and my younger sister are staying single until armageddon.
I feel so bad for you Crumpet. I fear this so much coming from a very large extended family, all JWs.. but I understand it, and once took part in it. It's very tough to let go of the family ties, but you need to create new ones with people that truly love you. Get yourself adopted! What is your B/fs family like? In my experience in time, they will regret their treatment of you and probably see how wrong they were. many years ago I shunned my own father (although he was a piece of s***) when the WT came out about how to treat people, I didn't see him til he died. And now it's one of my biggest regrets. I may not have liked him anyway, but I wish I'd taken the chance to get to know him. However life moves on. And although we're not your blood here, we understand you more than they ever will. Big hugs (although we'll stand a few feet apart, after all we are BRITISH! )
Poppy xxx
ok, if you had to choose between looks and personality, which wins?
guys: if a girl is only mediocre in the looks department but is absolutely fab-u-lous in the personality dept...........which is more important to you?
or are they equally important?
Sense of humour, every time, I love a smart intelligent wit. As for spirituality.. I like someone that thinks about things but is open minded enough to consider other peoples points of view. But hey, if all this comes rolled into a delicious looking package, who am I to turn it down
poppy x