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  Bible stories swept under the carpet

  by jgnat in

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  i'll start.. judges 4:21 jeal drove a tent peg through the head of a sleeping king.. judges 19:29 a man cut up the body of his raped and murdered concubine and sent the twelve parts to the twelve tribes of israel.. .

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  PoppyR

  Haven't got anything intelligent to add! But this thread has been so enlightening.

  The god of the old testamant and the Jesus of the new, they are not only not the same person, i dont even think they are the same species. How can those two be reconciled?

  I was always horrified that the JWS would parade the story about Lot being willing to send his daughters out to be raped and murdered to protect the angel who in theory could have wiped out the whole nation in one night!

  That and Job.. How did it make it all ok for him to lose 10 grown up children because he got some more... oh joys! And what about them? How is that fair, just because Jehovah did not intervene the devil supposedly wiped them all out.

  As each day goes by I shake my head more and more that I was so gullible. The bible reads like a grimms fairytale and is just as realistic.

  Poppy
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  Placed 6 magazines this morning

  by stillajwexelder in

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  just thought i would let you all know, that as part of my ongoing theocratic warfare strategy i placed 6 magazines this morning.

  i will be recording about 20 on my time slip though

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  I did the false reporting for probably my whole witness career, definitely when I was pioneering! But eventually I realised I was only adding to the statistics, can you imagine the REAL hours and placements if so many of us made/are making it up??

  Near the end I just put 2 or 3 hours even though I wasn't doing any, to keep the elders at bay, and eventually of course stopped reporting, but now I honestly feel if you MUST put a report in then try and keep it as low as possible to avoid adding to any already inflated report figures!

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  There's something happening here.

  by nicolaou in

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  hey watchtower!

  can you feel it?

  that cold, hard knot in your stomach?

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  PoppyR

  I have been wondering about the 1914 date and if the GB have stopped mentioning it in literature??

  When was the last time it was really emphasised? Will it be one of those doctrines that they are hoping will gradually fade away and then they can say it was 'new light'.

  Does anybody know about this?

  Poppy x
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  Should I stay or should I go

  by PoppyR in

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  so... i haven't stepped foot in the hall for about 6 months and have had my 'invatation' to the memorial.

  i had previously decided that i would go if asked, to make my family happy etc.. now i dont know what to do, because if i dont go, it's clear to them i am not half hearted about this and have made my decision.

  one side of me almost is interested to go, to see everything from a new light and i have two children who still attend intermittently and i want to be the one to take them if they are going.

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  PoppyR

  So... I haven't stepped foot in the hall for about 6 months and have had my 'invatation' to the memorial.

  I had previously decided that I would go if asked, to make my family happy etc.

  Now I dont know what to do, because if I dont go, it's clear to them I am NOT half hearted about this and have made my decision. Which I have by the way!

  One side of me almost is interested to go, to see everything from a new light and I have two children who still attend intermittently and I want to be the one to take them if they are going.

  Decision, Decisions!! I never thought I'd be one of the once a year attenders!! How fantastic to be on this side of the fence.

  Poppy xxx
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  Converation with Active Dub

  by pratt1 in

  1. jw
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  i had drinks with a friend of mine who is still active in the "lie".. i asked him point blank if he still believes that the "end" will come in his life time.

  he grew up as a dub and is in his early 40's.

  he answered that he hopes so.

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  Lets get real, I imagine that most on this board were once or are still baptised witnesses, and as such we accepted it all.. I remember about 4 years ago I joined an online group purporting to be for witnesses and it turned out to be an 'apostate' group. i was horrified and fired off an indignant email to the group leader asking them WHY do they insist on trying to stop others believing, I was so blinded. And I have to accept why my family now dont talk to me AT ALL about 'the truth' because they have heard that I have read apostate books! Which actually suits me fine. It's frustrating but we should remember and understand!

  Poppy xx
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  Poll: How many Quit school to pioneer? And: Did you go to college?

  by theredhead in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many of you quit school to pioneer or just because?

  and please explain why you quit...

  also: did you go to college?

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  I left school at 16 to pioneer, so sure that Armageddon would arrive before I had the chance to go to pioneer school (my goal!!!!) At the grand old age of 37 I'm just about to go back to college this year to study for a degree. One of my biggest regrets in life is not pursuing my education but it was just not the done thing back then, i dont know anyone that even stayed on until they were 18 let alone went to college.

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  Implied Consent: The end isn't coming let's live for today

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can't find the link to this page, but recently snippets of a co meeting with the elders and ms's revealed the following:.

  here are my notes from the biannual co visit.

  the notes are from the co meeting with elders & ms 2006 service year outline.

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  I guess when you are told that Armageddon will come before you go to school / leave school / get married / have children etc etc that the message starts to weaken after some time

  This is so true Dozy!! I was told I wouldn't leave school (21 years ago!) and I remember as a child they were building a huge Sainsburys (supermarket) here and my mum and another sister were laughing and saying "that'll never be finished"! They are now knocking it down to rebuild...lol.

  In my old congregation there were literally no young families left. When I looked around the regulars were all the die-hards 50s and 60s brothers, there are a few 30s couples but they are generally irregular and weak and one disappears every year (hey last year it was me!) There are no teenagers pioneering. When I left school there were 7 or 8 of us.

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  Tell your coworkers you're no longer a witness?

  by Dune in

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  well, when i first started working at my current place of employement, i was (still am) a witness.

  i went through a whole year of having to explain over and over why i didnt vote, why i didnt celebrate birthdays, thanksgivings, christmas and why i couldnt take part in lotteries and all the rest of that crap.

  i'm two years into the job and now it doesnt present a "problem" anymore.

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  I have been through this!! And have found the majority of people are thrilled you are no longer a witness! I started quietly by saying I was having serious doubts, I wasn't attending anymore etc, then I celebrated my birthday and my co-workers made a HUGE deal out of it being my 1st even bought me a 1st birthday cake, it was lovely. I talked honestly and frankly about wondering how I believed those things but it was so intense it was hard to get out etc.

  I wouldn't worry. I do sometimes consider blondies point.. that someone may call on one of your colleauges and they say.. oh so and so used to be a witness now she's celebrating christmas.. and you could be Dfed.. However, I think life is too short to run around hiding and I just take the chance.

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  Last straw?

  by happyout in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  so, my marriage has been in trouble for some time.

  my husband and i have totally different goals, and ideas of "partnership".

  the last few months have been even more difficult than usual, he has been out of work, and not picking up any extra load around the house.

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  I'm sorry that this has come to an end, but I think you know that it has. You dont love this man, he doesn't love you, and he clearly isn't interested in either getting a job or helping you out.

  Speaking from very recent experience I can say it's a difficult and very stressful time, but I'm now a single parent and only 2 months later i find my relationship with my boys has vastly improved, I'm much happier, enjoy coming home from work at night and just feel more positive about everything, in fact I hadn't realised how bad my relationship was until it was over (by his choice)

  The downsides, I have very little money (sounds like nothing will change for you there!) And of course sometimes the total responsibility for the boys weighs heavy. But I have absolutely not one regret.

  Thinking of you

  Poppy xxxx
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  Bible Bashing

  by PoppyR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  owwwwww.

  i think i have had a sign from heaven!

  i am decorating my lounge and decided to move the small supply of wt books up to the loft, as lots of them belong to my ex and he might want them.

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  Owwwwww. I think I have had a sign from heaven! I am decorating my lounge and decided to move the small supply of WT books up to the loft, as lots of them belong to my ex and he might want them. So I boxed them up and decided lazily not to go and get the ladders but to stand on a chair (oh yes one with wheels!!!) and push open the loft hatch and throw them up. sort of therapy.

  As I was balancing with this heavy box above my head, I could see the 'all scripture is inspired' book sliding and couldn't do a thing about it as it slid off the top, dropped 6 feet and cracked me on the side of the face.

  So when I got the box safely up there, I got down, grabbed that damn book and threw it as hard as I could through the loft entrance and satisfyingly heard it thwack against the opposite wall!!

  On the positive side, how nice is it to not have a single WTBT$ Book in my lounge!!!

  Poppy