You missed the triumphant return of moi
Well, I've been posting here more again anyway
i missed you guys!.
but i am back now from my vacation, so what did i miss fill me in!.
You missed the triumphant return of moi
Well, I've been posting here more again anyway
i think in most countries it is illegal to use this drug, so do you think it should be decriminalised, legalised & taxed, made legal for the medical proffesion or should it remain completely illegal?
please state your reasons for your choice.. lfcv.
bbdodger, I love ya for your taste in music but I've got some serious issues with your stance on this subject. Please don't take this as a personal attack.
"It's a stupid thing to do, it sucks the life out of you, you forget how to have fun without it, and it makes you think you're more inspired than you actually are..."
In my opinion this says more about you than the substance. It is what you make of it. If you let pot suck the life out of you, it will. If you depend on a substance to have fun, it's your dependancy that's the issue, not the substance itself. Some people need to "fill the hole" and will do so one way or another, for some it's a drug for others it's a religion. Blaming one's lack of motivation, lack of originality or enjoyment on a substance is dodging personal responsibility.
"Marijuana smokers should be held under the same standards while as drinkers are when caught driving under the influence. AND... don't give me that BS about being a better driver while you're stoned, it simply doesn't fly."
I completely agree with this one, driving under any influence is toying with your own life and the lives of others. No one has the right to toy with another person's life.
"If our jails weren't clogged up with simple drug offenses, and the cops didn't have to waste time dealing with idiot stoners, it would be a better country. It would also be a safer country! The average stoner doesn't think about where his pot comes from, the deals and the dealers. There may have been someone killed for that Guatemalan Red Hair that you scored, but the stoner doesn't see that part of the deal."
I admit being referred to as an idiot makes me prickle a little I do think about where the mj comes from. Why support South America, Canada or other places when you can support your local economy? Generally I make it a point to know where it's from. I make it a point to interact with people I know and trust not just through this mutual interest, but people who share my overall outlook and social beliefs. Just because you personally didn't think about these things doesn't mean everyone who ever smokes mj doesn't.
Marijuana is very SOCIALLY addictive. You gain friends very quickly, and you bond with them very quickly too... but you'll lose them just as fast if you stop smoking pot."
Again, your personal experience does not make this fact. I have near and dear friends that I have had for over 10 years that I met this way. It's just like any other social activity, you meet people you share a common interest with. Some of these people make a brief appearance in your social life, others make a life long impression. If you never made any long term friends, this says more about the quality of people you associated with, not the substance involved.
Basically my issue is this; you are reaching some concrete and uninformed conclusions about a subject you have not truly been involved with for several years. You reaching them based on what it was like for you in your early 20's. To the best of my knowledge, there are very few socially responsible people at that age (there are a few rare exceptions), one cannot judge an entire subculture based on experiences with a population that is notoriously irresponsible.
i think in most countries it is illegal to use this drug, so do you think it should be decriminalised, legalised & taxed, made legal for the medical proffesion or should it remain completely illegal?
please state your reasons for your choice.. lfcv.
The main thing I've seen is that stoners don't seem to have motivation and are lethargic acting. That might be ok for some stations in life, but it certainly isn't desirable for most of them.That's why you chose a good time to do it, when you have a few hours to relax and unwind.
Make sure you are with good friends. Being with jerks can make it a bad experience.
There is another type of weed that can make you feel energized...not lethargic.
One night I went for a jog after , and I felt like I could keep on running..
I did not feel tired or winded, I just kept running - not quite like forrest, but almost!
(yes, it was just weed. I knew the source).
Well put Eclipse, personally I think alot of it is what you bring to the equation yourself. I prefer to get out and do things. I'm not a jogger, but I will literally walk for miles in an evening. I've spent plenty of time doing the lethargic bit in my time as well, but it's a personal choice. If you don't want to be a lazy stoner, don't
here's the scenario: you buy an item and it's on sale for 10% off the original price.
a new cashier charges you, instead of 10% off, 10 cents!
this happened to a woman who bought a leather coat among other things and when she reviewed her slip she knew absolutely that the new cashier messed up.
I'm in sales, what's that tell ya?
here is an excerpt from a book called "fresh wisdom-breakthrough to enlightenment" that really hits the point:
the con of religion
we have never met a christian who has given up everything and followed christ.
I think it was best explained in the movie Dogma:
"He said humanity took a good idea and, like always, built a belief structure on it."
"it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant."
i think in most countries it is illegal to use this drug, so do you think it should be decriminalised, legalised & taxed, made legal for the medical proffesion or should it remain completely illegal?
please state your reasons for your choice.. lfcv.
Right behind you on that one sweetface
i think in most countries it is illegal to use this drug, so do you think it should be decriminalised, legalised & taxed, made legal for the medical proffesion or should it remain completely illegal?
please state your reasons for your choice.. lfcv.
John Doe/Devil's Advocate:
That's circular argumentation. In effect, you're saying that marijuana should be legal because people are in jail for smoking it. Saying that pot smokers are not "true criminals" is saying they haven't been convicted of breaking the law, which is absurd.
I don't believe I expressed my original comment clearly. There have been many instances here in Oregon of issues with overcrowded prisons. This is what inspired my commentary about "true criminals". There have been instances where persons convicted of murder, rape and other violent crimes or who are mentally ill being released from prison to free up space. It seems to me that it would be better to legalize what most people consider a harmless substance and stop filling up the valuable jail space needed for the violent offenders.
I can see your point about prison being for those that break the law, but as usual nothing is that black and white. We could go back and forth for days about the flaws with our (America's) criminal justice system and still never agree
"Consequences dictate
our course of action
and it doesn't matter what's right.
It's only wrong if you get caught." - Tool
i think in most countries it is illegal to use this drug, so do you think it should be decriminalised, legalised & taxed, made legal for the medical proffesion or should it remain completely illegal?
please state your reasons for your choice.. lfcv.
It already is in California and several other states.
Oldflame, that's not entirely true. California is much like Oregon in that it has been decriminalized and they have established medical programs with it. But it is still technically illegal and you can still earn jail time owning, buying or selling it.
i think in most countries it is illegal to use this drug, so do you think it should be decriminalised, legalised & taxed, made legal for the medical proffesion or should it remain completely illegal?
please state your reasons for your choice.. lfcv.
Nah Cheetos, not paranoid just a pothead who's stuck at work for another 4 hours
i think in most countries it is illegal to use this drug, so do you think it should be decriminalised, legalised & taxed, made legal for the medical proffesion or should it remain completely illegal?
please state your reasons for your choice.. lfcv.
I gotta quit posting on this thread, people are gonna think I'm a