I'm all for it. I am interested in free signs. PM me Rick and we'll talk.
Anybody in So Cal who wants to get out there with me? I'm open as to the Kingdom Hall we do it at. But the closer to Long Beach the better for me.
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"Get out of the bleachers and into the game"... Memorial 2012 demonstration.
by koolaid-man innow is a good time to start making preparations for the memorial night demonstration at your kingdom hall thursday, april 5, 2012, after sundown.. close to 20 million people will attend this annual global witness event including active witnesses, relatives and friends of witnesses, bible studies,return visits and still attached former witnesses.
the evils of the watchtower org.have to be exposed and this is an ideal time to do it.. many around the world have been adversely affected by their association with jehovah's witnesses and you can be an instrumental force by standing tall and courageously exposing the watchtower organization.. there is no better way to let the watchtower know your revulsion than to broadcast and present your view by standing fearlessly, demonstrating in front of a kingdom hall.. i am fully aware that a handful of the internet therapists who post on this forum will not agree with this method of unmasking the watchtower.. those intolerant, contemptuous critics who will comment on this thread making harsh judgements and finding fault with those who protest are perhaps deep-down wishing they had the backbone to stop hiding in cyber-space, step away from their computer and "get out of the bleachers and into the game" .
lets make this a global event!......
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Steven Unthank is a true HERO
by Shawn10538 ini just got done listening to hsi interview on six screens.
if any of you have any doubt about his motives and the greatness of his heroic actions, listen to the entire interview.
it is more than 3 hours long and i believe he addresses many concerns some here have had.
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No underwear, too much class for that. But I would drape a cloak of honor around him if I could.
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Lack faith in a creator? Watch this!
by Greybeard inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq0pk8d0ofg&feature=related.
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watch all of it, don't miss the miracle....
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Oh wait! there they are! The fingerprints of Shaer, the Goddess of traveling souls and art, very clearly! Absolute proof that Shaer lives and has created the Butterflies!
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Lack faith in a creator? Watch this!
by Greybeard inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq0pk8d0ofg&feature=related.
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watch all of it, don't miss the miracle....
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I don't see any fingerprints.
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Steven Unthank is a true HERO
by Shawn10538 ini just got done listening to hsi interview on six screens.
if any of you have any doubt about his motives and the greatness of his heroic actions, listen to the entire interview.
it is more than 3 hours long and i believe he addresses many concerns some here have had.
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I just got done listening to hsi interview on six screens. If any of you have any doubt about his motives and the greatness of his heroic actions, listen to the entire interview. It is more than 3 hours long and I believe he addresses many concerns some here have had. Personally, I believe he is a great man and I am just in AWE of him. I strive to be like him. I hope at the end of my life I can point to something that great on my list of accomplishments. But I don't know if I am made of the same mettle as Mr. Unthank. He took on Goliath, and he did it with CLASS all the way down. he deserves all the praise and support we can muster. Thank you Steven. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are a true HERO to us all.
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Steven Unthank: What do we really know?
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.
my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.
bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.
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Does the picture NEED to really be a picture of a particular raped girl? I believe it would be illegal first of all to post such a picture. But he said it was an "image' a pencil drawn image that merely represented in a fictional way a little girl who was raped. So I see no necesity that it must be an actual picture of a specific rape victim, as that would be illegal I am sure. Some of you need to open your mind a little and learn how to understand metaphor and symbolism. It's just a basic skill we should all have and it would prevent misunderstandings like this. seeing Rick Fearon this way is another bit of advice I would have. He is nbot to be taken literally in every instance. The picture did its job in making a point, a true point that there is a little girl who was raped by a JW in that congregation. It's none of our business what she really looks like so that picture is as good as any would be. Any picture but her actual picture would do.
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What could trigger a large proportion of JWs at once that this religion is a scam
by Mr Facts ini am just thinking if there could ever be anything that would raise consciousness in the minds of millions of jws that this a completely hoax.
what could spark millions of them at once, any thoughts?..
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I don't think anything can. If false prophecy several times over didn't do it, riding brazenly on the back of the wild Beast didn't do it, the Holocaust didn't do it, flip flops and word definition change didn't do it. I think most religious types are the same way about their respective religions. absolute diswconfirmation has little effect on the faithful. Looking at the blatant rip offs that televangelists do every day, people dying over their religion is commonplace. If you beat them on the head a million times you will not remove the stupid from them. Death, torture, nuclear bombs. if there is anything I have faith in it is that religious people will stick to their guns about their religion. It is more constant and dependable than death and taxes.
abraham was just about to kill his only son for his delusion of God. whether it happened or not in reality, I believe that religious people are willing to kill their own children for thei imaginary invisible man any day of the week without breaking a sweat, without a twinge of conscience. In fact it will make them feel good to kill their children, or rape their children or torture them whatever. As long as there are stupid people, cults and religions will endure.
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Bloodplates... Can it Really be Justified?
by mrbunyrabit ini was thinking about something.. getting a blood transfution.. thats wrong right?
oky and theres allot of scriptures supporting that.. so is giving blood at a bloodbank allowed for witnesses?
no, its not allowed.... oky so heres my question.... witnesses are allowed to use blood plates... where does those blood plates come from?.
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OK. so I am learning a lot here. I was reading the wikip[edia article, but no mention there of actual percentages of how often exactly whole blood transfusions are used, and where and why they are used. I guess I should stop saying that whole blood transfusions don't exist. There is enough evidence to prove I was wrong in that. But I also noticed that wikipedia called whole blood, the practice of constructing whole blood from previously fractioned donations. I object to that. That is one area we can really take a stand and say, "Sorry, let's stop calling that whole blood." We should not call that whole blood. A new term must be used there because, it is not whole. It is a manufactured produc withg different percentages of the different blood parts.
In regards to these prescreened persons who donate their blood. Where does this take place? Do hospitals do this? The Red Cross showed me a room of people who donate regularly. Many of them had special blood types and are these very prescreened individuals. And all of this took place, not at any hospital but at the Red Cross facility in Pamona. That is where all the hospitals in southern California get their blood. no word from them of any hospitals in So Cal that do not get their blood from them or that have their own collection services.
If there are any hospitals that collect their own blood I'd like to know who and where. Definitely I am sure that no blood donor gets a call in the middle of the night and gets the message, "You must report downtown at the hospital immediately because we have a person bleeding to death." I am quite sure that every hospital has blood on hand for emergencies. I mean, that is ALL hospitals have isn't it? Emergencies. That is what the hospital is for.
In emergencies, the hospital does not call anybody but their local blood bank, or natiuonal blood bank. That would be the Red Cross in most cases. So hospitals use blood from blood banks. That is what the blood banks are for, just those kind of emergencies. That is why, getting infop from the Red Cross itself is more reliable. If anybody knows about blood it would be them wouldn't it?
I have much more research to do, but I think I am on a new track here.
Thanks to all contributors.
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Bloodplates... Can it Really be Justified?
by mrbunyrabit ini was thinking about something.. getting a blood transfution.. thats wrong right?
oky and theres allot of scriptures supporting that.. so is giving blood at a bloodbank allowed for witnesses?
no, its not allowed.... oky so heres my question.... witnesses are allowed to use blood plates... where does those blood plates come from?.
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and let's keep autologous blood transfsuoon out of the whole blood debate since we are talking about what hospitals have available to them from blood banks. Autologous transfusions are a different subject. I'm not sure to what degree autologous blood needs to be cleaned before having it put back into one's body, but I concede that it could be ALL put back making it whole blood.
If your purpose in talking about blood is to save lives, as mine is, and you want to massage JWs into accepting autologous blood transfusion you should do what the Indian doctor did in the article I have on AJWRB. The woman a JW accepted her own blood after it had been out of her body six hopurs. She was not DAd or DFd for this. therefore we have anecdotal evidence that JWs are accepting autologous blood transfusions of their blood that has been sitting around, probably circulating, for six hours. If they will accept their own blood six hours old, then maybe they will accept 7 hour old blood. Then 8. Then 9. and so forth. In other words, they are already accepting autologous blood transfusions. It's just a matter of how long it has to be out of their body as to whether or not they will accept it.
Calling autologous blood transfusion a "whole blood transfusion" may make a JW not accept it on those grounds. So I would say it actually might kill some people if we go around saying that ABT are whole blood transfusions. Let's not do that, OK? Let's just keep our efforts on actually saving real lives rather than 'being correct." Being right in this case may cost JWs their lives. I don't want that.
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Bloodplates... Can it Really be Justified?
by mrbunyrabit ini was thinking about something.. getting a blood transfution.. thats wrong right?
oky and theres allot of scriptures supporting that.. so is giving blood at a bloodbank allowed for witnesses?
no, its not allowed.... oky so heres my question.... witnesses are allowed to use blood plates... where does those blood plates come from?.
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I am curious about how the Army handles blood, if it indeed uses whole blood. As I mentioned before, platelets must be kept moving and warm. Red Blood cells must be refrigerated. Plasma must be frozen. So if you had a bag of whole blood, what would you do with it? Freeze it? Refrigerate it? Or keep it warm and moving back and forth?
Thios is a serious question. But I don't believe yet that any blood is stored with all its parts together due to the problems I just mentioned. If a doctor wanted to give a patient all parts of blood, he/she would have to order red blood cells in one bag, plasma in another and platelets in yet another. but it would not all be from the same donor. As I learned at the red Cross, blood donated from one donor does not get kept together. It will likely go to three different hospitals. So if you get a transfusion of all parts of blood, you will get it from three different donors. You will not get a transfusion of white blood cells. (If white blood cells are present with red blood cells that may be, but I haven't found a use for "just white blood cells" to be packaged on their own. Where white blood cells are taken out, there won't be many in the blood, but you will never see a bag of JUST WHITE BLOOD CELLS. it has no medical value that I have found yet.
So I gues this is yet another reseaRCH thing I'll have to do. But again, none of us are on the battlefield so it's a moot point.