Posts by Shawn10538

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Interviewing the Medical CEO for the Red Cross So Cal Region tommorrow

by Shawn10538 in

any suggestions on questions i could ask her?

i have about a dozen questions already and we are filming, but any last minute thoughts will be appreciated.. zen.

Shawn10538

Also, any great quotes from the Watchtower over the years on the Red Cross might be good.

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Interviewing the Medical CEO for the Red Cross So Cal Region tommorrow

by Shawn10538 in

any suggestions on questions i could ask her?

i have about a dozen questions already and we are filming, but any last minute thoughts will be appreciated.. zen.

Interviewing the Medical CEO for the Red Cross So Cal Region tommorrow

by Shawn10538 in

any suggestions on questions i could ask her?

i have about a dozen questions already and we are filming, but any last minute thoughts will be appreciated.. zen.

Shawn10538

Any suggestions on questions I could ask her? I have about a dozen questions already and we are filming, but any last minute thoughts will be appreciated.

zen

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Anybody donate blood and send in the "You're Welcome Watchtower" card yet?

by Shawn10538 in

just curious if anyoner has.. you can download the ajwrb brochure from ajwrb.org, and send in the page that is pre-addressed to the watchtower society, and basically says that you have donated blood and that the blood you donated will likely be transfused int a jw saving their lives.

it then suggests a "thank you" might be in order from ther watchtower since your own life blood was sacrificed so that jws could be saved.. i think this is a powerful action.

i hope the wt gets lots of these cards, and i can't wait until someone posts the "thank you for the thought" (cuz we all know that's how they are going to word it right?

Shawn10538

New Donors? First timers? Stories?

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Mormons in decline because of the Internet

by slimboyfat in

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interesting article.

i've often thought empirically mormons have an even harder sell than jws.

the watchtower merely falsifies the date of the fall of jerusalem.

Shawn10538

Mormons are crawling all over Long Beach, CA. I see them almost every single day out and about. Tons of them. They were a huge student population at CSULB too. They have a giant building right on campus, plus a dorm for just Mormons. They invite other students to "classes" that turn out to be just Mormon services. I see them in cars as well as bicycles. I've been to their services too, I dated one in college, and their congregation was huge. And there are at least three major churches in Long Beach with probably thousands of attending members, not counting the buildings they have at CSULB AND Long Beach City College. So I doubt they will be going away any time soon.

And in case anyone forgot, there is one running for president right now and everyone is deathly afraid of saying so much as one word against the Mormon religion lest it be labled as hate speech. So apparently religion is just off limits as far as using a president's religion to prove how crazy they are.

I think the polls all show that most Americans could not care less that we may have a Mormon president.

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Menlo Park KH - Elder Tells All - and more

by Juan Viejo2 in

i've published part one of a three part series about the menlo park kh scandal.

http://ex-jw.com/menlo-park-elder-tells-all-1.

this has been a tough one for me.. the original federal case was dismissed in january.

Shawn10538

Wow! This stirs up such anger in me. It is so obvious that the charges were just and the Watchtower should have gotten BURNED on this one. I just had to stop reading the charges at some point. You only need to get so far in before you get a grasp of what was going on. And dismissing the elders cuz they didn't send in a publisher letter and card against the wishes of the publisher? Cracked up charges.

Why does the Society keep winning in court?

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How would atheists respond to this?

by Knowsnothing in

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/godreal.html.

british philosopher, dr. antony flew, has been a leading spokesperson for atheism, actively involved in debate after debate.

however, scientific discoveries within the last 30 years brought him to a conclusion he could not avoid.

Shawn10538

It's still an argument with many logical fallacies interwoven into it no matter which way you slice it. It is inductive reasoning for one thing. It is also a false dichotomy (either or thinking like it has to be either intelligent design or not intelligent design as if there were only those two options.) It is a slippery slope. It also incites Occams Razor, opting for non magical explanations before jumping to the magical. It is an asumption, in that God is not known by anybody provably, God is only assumed. God is just one explanation among infinite others, all of them being equally valid. Plus the possiblity that x is just as good an explanation, we just don't know the value or identity of x. Then there is "Which God?" to contend with. Which version? Why the word God? Why intelligent? Intelligent compared to what or whom? What about intelligent plus one? Intelligent plus two? ... on to infinity. What about dog? What about Cataflunk? What about semi - intelligence? What about comparing our reality to some other reality that is either more or less intelligent?

Intelligence is a judgement we are making, not an identity. So there has to be a scale of "a little intelligent, moderately intelligent, super intelligent...etc." Then all those things need to be compared to a similar God in a similar situation so we can decide which God is more intelligent. Then we can say a is more intelligent than b, so a is this other God in another more intelligent universe, and b is our God, who is comparably less intelligent, though still pretty intelligent.... It just goes on and on like that. There really is no way to prove God unless you meet him face to face... like I did. But then it's only good proof for me, not anyone else. so my experience can't help the debate at all.

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Anybody donate blood and send in the "You're Welcome Watchtower" card yet?

by Shawn10538 in

just curious if anyoner has.. you can download the ajwrb brochure from ajwrb.org, and send in the page that is pre-addressed to the watchtower society, and basically says that you have donated blood and that the blood you donated will likely be transfused int a jw saving their lives.

it then suggests a "thank you" might be in order from ther watchtower since your own life blood was sacrificed so that jws could be saved.. i think this is a powerful action.

i hope the wt gets lots of these cards, and i can't wait until someone posts the "thank you for the thought" (cuz we all know that's how they are going to word it right?

Shawn10538

Any blood donating experiences yet? Anyone who sent in the "You're Welcome Watchtower" card get a reply back?

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What's the strangest thing you've heard someone seek counsel with the elders about?

by keyser soze in

personally, i never went to the elders with anything(not voluntarily, anyway).

but a friend of mine once asked a couple of elders whether it would be acceptable for him and his wife to make a sex tape, for their own personal viewing.

needless to say, the idea was frowned upon..

Shawn10538

bestiality. One guy who worked at the Farm, in the farm dept. and when he discovered that cows lick just about anything you put close to their mouths, well heloooo--- (spoken like GEORGE tAKEI) what a ya know about that! The guy used to wear John Deer caps all the time when he was outside the Bethel buildings.

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what is the all time best example of the WT selective history?

by Aussie Oz in

it's almost like there are so many little things that add up to a lot, a lot of evidence that the wt selectivly presents its history, and even attempts to re-write it at times.. but if you had to choose just one item to prove your point, what would it be?.

oz.

Shawn10538

Gotta be the 1914 thing. That was huge for me. I didn't know about it until like 2002 or something.